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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/bass-players-discussion/bass-technique/paged/2/#post-225507</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yah, I did a &#039;relearn&#039; many years ago with flatpicking on guitar: I started off - because my thumb is that way - holding the pick with the back edge hitting the string first; sorta like Neal...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yah, I did a 'relearn' many years ago with flatpicking on guitar: I started off - because my thumb is that way - holding the pick with the back edge hitting the string first; sorta like Neal Schon, Santana and George Benson as I later found out. Felt really natural.<br><br>Then I saw where you're supposed to hold it angled down so the front edge  hits the string first. Took a while but I mastered it. BUT now I wish I'd kept the orginal technique since it was so natural. Been playing too many years this way so despite thinking about going back, I probably never will.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/bass-players-discussion/bass-technique/paged/2/#post-225493</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yeah, I watched the Todd Johnson clip, that&#039;s where I learned about the technique. I&#039;ve been trying it out lately and it&#039;s a little frustrating, as I&#039;ve got to re-learn everything I&#039;ve been ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yeah, I watched the Todd Johnson clip, that's where I learned about the technique. I've been trying it out lately and it's a little frustrating, as I've got to re-learn everything I've been doing - I figure this will help me with my muting problems, though, and will build a better foundation if I ever switch to a bass with more than four strings. (With my old technique, a 5-string would've killed me; I currently anchor on the E with my thumb when I'm not using it, and I try to mute the A with my ring finger, with little success.) As you said, DemoEtc, it does look much cooler. I think the reason ERB players use it, though, is not primarily due to the stretch - it's just that when you play a note on any string, complementary harmonics ring on the other strings. Those have to be muted, or else it would soon become a cacophony of excess sound. <br><br>FT also seems very intuitive, because with the floating hand position, switching to different styles is very simple. Want to play slap? Just extend your thumb. Want to play fingerstyle? You don't have to take your thumb off of a string or pickup, or anything. Your hand is in the natural position common to most styles of play, even rasgueado.<br><br>It's frustrating, though. You've got to keep your elbow up (like he says in the video) and I often find myself dropping the arm out of laziness. I'm trying to overcome that, but it's a hard habit to break. I'm also having problems moving from the shoulder, instead of pulling my hand from the fingers when I move up a string. It's kind of a difficult technique to master, i suppose. But, upside, i have less ringing strings. With more practice, I'll have no extra resonance at all. I'm having problems switching strings, I guess that will also come with practice.<br><br>Hah...doesn't it suck when you have to relearn everything you know? I was doing so well, too... :P]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes, that&#039;s pretty much the way I play too, but it usually defaults to thumb on pickup or side of neck.I&#039;ve also just read that there&#039;s &#039;floating thumb&#039; and &#039;moveable anchor.&#039; Some people se...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yes, that's pretty much the way I play too, but it usually defaults to thumb on pickup or side of neck.<br><br>I've also just read that there's 'floating thumb' and 'moveable anchor.' Some people seem to think they're the same, others think they're distinct; floating thumb being where the thumb doesn't touch anything until you want to mute a string, the other where the thumb anchors on different strings as you move up and down across the strings. The moveable anchor seems to be what I probably do - I don't think much of it while I'm playing - but you're right about the consensus; seems that it's more important for basses with more than 4-5 strings.<br><br>I'm not really into basses with more than 5 strings, but I can imagine playing an 11-string or something; I sure wouldn't be able to anchor on the pickup cover for very long.<br><br>EDIT: Oh, as far as my avatar, I only rarely play with a flatpick, but when I do, the thumb floats in a different way ;)]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have just been shown the greatness that is the floating thumb. Does anyone use this technique, and if so, any tips?


The way I&#039;ve seen it explained, it seems much more important if you ha...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I have just been shown the greatness that is the floating thumb. Does anyone use this technique, and if so, any tips?


The way I've seen it explained, it seems much more important if you have more than four strings. <br><br>That said, I don't keep my thumb in one place like a thumbrest.  I use it to mute the E string when I'm playing other strings, and I anchor it on the pickup when I play the E.  But I don't really think about it - it just goes where it wants.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I usually plant my thumb on either the side of the neck or on one of the pickups. I&#039;ve heard mention  of this technique and so googled it. There&#039;s something by Todd Johnson on youtube where ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I usually plant my thumb on either the side of the neck or on one of the pickups. I've heard mention  of this technique and so googled it. There's something by Todd Johnson on youtube where he demonstrates it. <br><br>Other places describe the floating thumb as anchoring on the lowest string and then moving back and off it when it's time to use it. Sometimes I do anchor on the low string and move off to play, but I don't use the technique that Todd uses where the whole hand is gliding up and down. It's sorta neat looking; I might try it. It's supposed to be especially good for ERB's like with 6+ strings. I mean for those, you almost have to do it because you can't really span that distance - from pickup edge to highest string - without really doing a good span or awkward wrist angle.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Coming back to this topic. We don&#039;t have that many bassists here, do we...this area is pretty lethargic!I have just been shown the greatness that is the floating thumb. Does anyone use this ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Coming back to this topic. We don't have that many bassists here, do we...this area is pretty lethargic!<br><br>I have just been shown the greatness that is the floating thumb. Does anyone use this technique, and if so, any tips?<br><br>Thanks.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/bass-players-discussion/bass-technique/#post-223164</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[...One last question (sorry, guys!) - I just realized this, as I was playing today. When I try to mute the strings with my fret hand, it should work...but it doesn&#039;t. And I&#039;ve realized why. ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[...<br>One last question (sorry, guys!) - I just realized this, as I was playing today. When I try to mute the strings with my fret hand, it should work...but it doesn't. And I've realized why. I always get annoying harmonics wherever I try to mute, espcially near the nut. Most ANNOYING sound ever...how do I alleviate this? (Aside from turning down the gain/volume, or getting flatwounds :P )

Sorry, didn't see this last one. <br><br>For this - and I know what you mean, it's those natural string harmonics between the nut and the 5th fret or so - it would be a combination of muting with the fretting hand and playing rest-strokes with the picking hand. Also, turning the fretting hand slightly so the fingers are pointing more or less toward the headstock sometimes helps. It puts the fingers at a really weird angle to the strings and gives different points with which to mute. Sometimes you have to actually rehearse segments of the song where there's a problem and rehearse the muting - especially for important / troublesome notes.<br><br>Sometimes you can also minimize the ringing by picking a little further away from the bridge for those particular passages.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/bass-players-discussion/bass-technique/#post-221769</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re fast with one finger, man, you&#039;ll be playing laps around everyone once you switch to two.  I sometimes use classical style on the bass (PIMA technique) but only if I&#039;m playing some...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[If you're fast with one finger, man, you'll be playing laps around everyone once you switch to two.  I sometimes use classical style on the bass (PIMA technique) but only if I'm playing something I've written meant to sound that way. Much harder the mute the sintrgs, there, but ringing notes on bass can be a pleasing effect if done correctly. No super-low registers...you can do chords, but they have to be inversions. I might play an open A string, and then a C and an E an octave above, and it sounds quite nice. To me, anyway.<br><br>I alternate fingers and I'm getting a bit faster as well...I have learned to love the alternate/sweep method. Good stuff. I find it very difficult to use my ring finger on bass other than to mute the occasional string; I have to tilt my hand to engage the finger if I try to use it, and it's a lot weaker than the other fingers. In classical style it's fine, but trying to alternate with it is a chore. Triplets are really going to kick my ass.<br><br>I can't play that ocatve exercise quickly at all...there's no economy of motion when I don't alternate strings like that. I guess I'll just have to get used to it.<br><br>One last question (sorry, guys!) - I just realized this, as I was playing today. When I try to mute the strings with my fret hand, it should work...but it doesn't. And I've realized why. I always get annoying harmonics wherever I try to mute, espcially near the nut. Most ANNOYING sound ever...how do I alleviate this? (Aside from turning down the gain/volume, or getting flatwounds :P )]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still trying to work up to a decent speed on bass - but one thing I have noticed, I can play a lot faster with the one finger per string style. The problem comes when I have to do a quic...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm still trying to work up to a decent speed on bass - but one thing I have noticed, I can play a lot faster with the one finger per string style. The problem comes when I have to do a quick run on one string, I automatically use my first finger - like you would playing guitar. I suppose that it's because I've played guitar for so long, and bass for a relatively short time - it's a deeply ingrained habit....I suppose it'll come in time, muscle memory will prevail - but only if I get it right!<br><br>Lunchmeat, glad the finger problem's cleared up.....it looks as if it was just that your finger needed strengthening.....<br><br> :D  :D  :D <br><br>Vic]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Bass Technique?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The middle finger problem seems to have gone away with time. I thought it&#039;d be a problem, but I just the fingers just got stronger. I guess even double-jointed people can prevail...then agai...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The middle finger problem seems to have gone away with time. I thought it'd be a problem, but I just the fingers just got stronger. I guess even double-jointed people can prevail...then again, I haven't been trying to play faster than I can lately, which may have a lot to do with it. (I play with a guitarist, a friend of mine who likes speed metal. You do the math.)<br><br>I'm generally very good at fret-hand muting, but not for individual strings - while I've been trying to practice muting with my index finger on my left hand, it's difficult when I have to use it for something else, like fretting a note. Also, if I've got to span a number of frets, it makes it harder. I'd ilke to be able to access four frets in any position, at any time. I used to do left-hand eercises but I haven't in a while.<br><br>As for the octave, I suppose I'll try some different techniques. Habit makes me try to use my thumb, since I'm used to playing guitar with my fingers, but more often than not this ends up sounding very sloppy (not to mention the tone of the note changes, since I'm using the thumb). I suppose it may be necessary in some cases, though. I'll try the one-finger-per-string technique...but does that work well at high speeds?]]></content:encoded>
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