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(@gadlaw)
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Don't forget 'Banjo' in that mix.
I'm thinking,-
Initial Acoustic Guitar (check)
High End(ish) Electric Fender (check)
Higher End Acoustic Guitar (working on it)
Another High end Electric Fender with Humbuckers (working on it)
Hollow Body (like George Benson plays- Ibanez I think) (thinking about it)
Banjo five string (don't know why five instead of four but it just sounds right) (between working on it and thinking about it)


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(@greybeard)
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hmmm, I don't remember....I counted a while back and it was less than 20.

So...your divorced right? :D
From more guitars than he cares to remember! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

For those considering the matrimonial route, here's a salutory tale:

Dear IT Support,

Eighteen months ago I upgraded to Girlfriend 1.0 from Drinking Mates 4.2 which I'd used for years without any trouble. However, there are apparently conflicts between these two products and the only solution was to try and run Girlfriend 1.0 with the sound turned off.
To make matters worse, Girlfriend 1.0 is also incompatible with several other applications, such as Lads Night Out 3.1, Football 2.0 and Playboy 6.1.
Successive versions of Girlfriend proved no better. A shareware beta-programme, Party Girl 2.1, which I tried, had many bugs and left a virus in my system, forcing me to shut down completely for several weeks.
Eventually I tried to run Girlfriend 1.2 and Girlfriend 1.0 at the same time, only to discover that when these two systems detected each other they caused severe damage to my hardware.
Sensing a way out, I then upgraded to Fiancé 1.0 only to discover that this product soon had to be upgraded (at great cost) to Wife 1.0, which I reluctantly agreed to because, whilst Wife 1.0 tends to use up all my available resources, it does come bundled with FreeSex Plus and Cleanhouse 2000.
Shortly after this upgrade however I then discovered that Wife 1.0 can be very unstable and costly to run. For example, any mistakes I made were automatically stored in Wife 1.0's memory and could not be deleted. They then resurfaced months later when I had forgotten about them.
Wife 1.0 also has an automatic Diary Explorer and E-mail porn filter, and can, without warning, launch Photostrop and Whingezip! These latter products have no help files and I have to try and guess what the problem is myself.
Additional costly problems are that Wife 1.0 needs updating regularly, requiring Shoe Shop Browser for new attachments and also Hairstyle Express which needs to be reinstalled every other week. Wife 1.0 also spawns unwelcome child processing that also drains my resources.
It also conflicted with some of the new games I wanted to try, stating that they are an illegal operation.
When Wife 1.0 attaches itself to my Audi TT programme it often crashes or runs the system dry. Wife 1.0 also has a rather annoying pop-up called Mother-in-Law, which can't be turned off.
Recently I've attempted to try Mistress 2001, but there could be problems: a friend has alerted me to the fact that if Wife 1.0 detects the presence of Mistress 2001 it tends to delete all my MS Money files before un-installing itself.
Please can you help me.

Joe.

**Response from IT**

Dear Joe,
This is a very common problem that men complain about but it is mostly due to a primary misconception. Many people upgrade from Girlfriend 1.0 to Wife 1.0 with the idea that Wife 1.0 is merely a "utilities & entertainment" program.
Wife1.0 is an operating system and designed by its creator to run everything. It is unlikely you would be able to purge Wife 1.0 and still convert back to Girlfriend 1.0. Hidden operating files within your system would cause Girlfriend 1.0 to emulate Wife 1.0 so nothing would be gained.
It is impossible for you to un-install, delete, or purge the program files from the system once installed. You cannot go back to Girlfriend 1.0 because Wife1.0 is not designed to do this.
Mistress 2001 is a possibility but your friend is right about the effect this has on your MS Money files.
The temptation after that is to install Girlfriend 1.3 or Wife 2.0 but end up with more problems than the original system - (look in your manual under "warnings - alimony/child support"). I recommend you keep Wife 1.0 and just deal with the situation.
Having Wife 1.0 installed myself, I might also suggest you read the entire section regarding General Partnership Faults (GPFs).
You must assume all responsibility for every fault and problem that might occur, regardless of its cause.
In any case, avoid excessive use of the "esc" key because ultimately you will have to give the apologise command before the operating system will return to normal. The system will run smoothly as long as you take the blame for all the GPFs.
Wife 1.0 is a great program, but very high maintenance. Consider buying additional software to improve the performance of Wife 1.0. I recommend Flowers 2.1 and Chocolates 5.0, but do not, under any circumstances, install Secretary With Short Skirt 3.3. This is not a supported application for Wife 1.0 and is likely to cause irreversible damage to the operating system.
Best of luck.

IT Help Desk.
You have been warned!


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Everyone needs:

12-string accoustic
6-string accoustic
hollow body electric
solid body electric (single coils)
solid body electric (humbuckers)

After that you need to have backups, spares, and extras for alternative tunings (if you're into that).

Then of course there's the guitars you own because they are collectors items, great deals, or go really nicely with the coffee table ...

Uhmm...I disagree. Nobody NEEDS that many guitars. It all depends on what you want to play. If you want to be Mr. Versatility then yeah, having all that hardware is a good start. Otherwise, it would be pretty wastefull. Why would you need two solid body electrics just for the slightly different sounding pups?

Nowadays, you can pretty much make your strat or gibby sound like anything if you have the right accessories. I say, play your elec/acous until its all worn out and battle scard (like SRV's classic strat) and THEN you can get a new baby if you desire. All you really need is a high quality electric and a decent acoustic.

EDIT: Come to think about it. If youre the kind of person who is persueing this guitar thing in hopes of making a career out of it, then yes you most certainly need all that equipment. Maybe that was the context that you were thinking in Kingpatzer. In which case you would be 100% correct IMO.


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(@gadlaw)
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Everyone needs:

12-string accoustic
6-string accoustic
hollow body electric
solid body electric (single coils)
solid body electric (humbuckers)

After that you need to have backups, spares, and extras for alternative tunings (if you're into that).

Then of course there's the guitars you own because they are collectors items, great deals, or go really nicely with the coffee table ...

Uhmm...I disagree. Nobody NEEDS that many guitars. It all depends on what you want to play. If you want to be Mr. Versatility then yeah, having all that hardware is a good start. Otherwise, it would be pretty wastefull. Why would you need two solid body electrics just for the slightly different sounding pups?

“We are driven by five genetic needs: survival, love and belonging, power, freedom, and fun.” -- William Glasser

I would submit that guitars provide at least three out of five of these. And I would imagine it depends on who is deciding what you need. If you get to decide for yourself, well then you don't really need to decide what you 'need' - you just get what you want. I've pretty much decided I need as many guitars as I darn well want.


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(@martin-6)
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I guess the all-important question here is "do you have a second pair of hands?"

As any non-guitar-player will tell you, there is no point owning two guitars if you can only play one at a time.

I am very lucky in that I am endowed with four pairs of hands, and I am considering growing a fifth.



   
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(@kingpatzer)
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Everyone needs:...

Uhmm...I disagree. Nobody NEEDS that many guitars. ...

EMaybe that was the context that you were thinking in Kingpatzer. In which case you would be 100% correct IMO.

Actually, I was thinking in the context of humor . . .


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(@voodoo_merman)
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Ahhh...Understood Kingp'. I should have known you were joking. Your posts are usually pretty logical/practical...


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(@nicktorres)
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To tell the truth nobody needs a single guitar. That isn't the point though.



   
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(@twistedlefty)
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I'm glad i get to decide what i need :roll:

I can understand people being envious or even jealous of what others have but just because somebody thinks i may have more than i need, i'ts being "wasteful"?
Come on, thats ludicrus. the companys that make guitars stock warehouses full of these things. i could care less if somebody learning their first chord has 1 or 1000 guitars.


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(@nicktorres)
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That's my point. I mean a crack addict doesn't need more crack, but try convincing them of that. I mean I've bought some of my best bargain guitars from crack heads trying to raise money for a fix.



   
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(@redpoint)
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I think that if you're sure you're going to stick with the guitar, then buy an electric, as long as you can actually afford it! You don' t have to buy something high end, in any case. You can find a used mexican strat on Craigslist for $200-$250 (for instance). You could also just pick up a Squier (which are perfectly fine guitars) for $100-$200 used or new. I think the Squier starter pack gives you an amp and a guitar for $200, which is a good deal.

I think that you can go buy all sorts of guitars if you have the disposable income, but having 1 acoustic and 1 electric (with an amp) gets you 90% of the way there, in terms of being to play in some kind of musical genre. Also as you get more guitars, each individual guitar gets less playing time (unless somehow you get more time to go with each guitar you acquire), so there's some sort of diminishing returns.

I have one of each, and I've found that it's useful to have another guitar to go to with a different neck width and fret spacing. It also helps you in being able to play adequately on guitars that you don't own (or practice on regularly). It's easier to do certain things on the electric since the strings are usually lighter. So I was able to do barre chords and bends on the electric first, and now they're making their way to the acoustic. And of course, it helps when you want to play loud angry metal/rock to have an electric.



   
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(@gadlaw)
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That's my point. I mean a crack addict doesn't need more crack, but try convincing them of that. I mean I've bought some of my best bargain guitars from crack heads trying to raise money for a fix.

Goodness gracious. So I should cultivate the acquaintance of various crack heads in order to get their guitars from them? :roll: That's another long moral discussion right there.

And I'm with TwistedLefty - He said it more clearly than I did - Glad nobody else is deciding what "I Need" for me. Seems rather presumptuous and rude. And I'm still getting my list of guitars.


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(@nicktorres)
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I hope you all aren't misunderstanding what I am saying. I'm agreeing with you. You've all seen pictures of how many guitars I think I need, right?

I'm saying guitar isn't food, clothing, shelter or water. So I don't need any of my guitars.

I have the choice of living a meaningless, empty, bottled up, mentally constrained life without music and self expression if I want to. Don't you? Sounds appealling doesn't it?

I think I'll stick with as many guitars as I want/need.



   
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(@corbind)
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Quite frankly, I've been 'sad' the past three months or so because I don't have a second guitar. I've been playing electric for three almost four years. Yet I hear some beautiful acoustic songs and I can't cut it. I use a processor floor box but it is not even close. At band practice I make it a point to pick up the lead guitar player's 12 string acoustic and just mess with it. A second guitar is (I think) a way to get a better understanding of what you are doing.

Case in point. I've been playing "Sister Golden Hair" by America on my electric for the past 2 months. It's cool, but it really needs an acoustic. I played a 12 string acoustic last night on that song and it really MADE the song. So now I know and have known for a long time that it's important to have both an electric and acoustic.

Why? You can learn an electic song and barre to the n'th degree. But playing acoustic you have to thing about what will really work. Can you barre a D root 6 barre chord at the 10 fret on an acoustic? Maybe. But it's painful.

Nevertheless, having both really brings out your acoustic and electric side. Disclaimer: as I said, I don't OWN and acoustic but I get to play one after band practices every week.

Oh, and those like Nick, I wish I were you. I could not imagine owning an arsenal of guitars. But it would be cool! :D


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You people are guitar addicts!!!!!!!!!
Just sick!!
:lol:


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