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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 22:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s time for some divine intervention eh!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think it's time for some divine intervention eh!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>cnev</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve played in worship bands for quite a while, and working with an all volunteer force can definitely be difficult.  I would suggest having a sit-down with the entire band, remind them all ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I've played in worship bands for quite a while, and working with an all volunteer force can definitely be difficult.  I would suggest having a sit-down with the entire band, remind them all of what their purpose is, and encourage them to work to improve both their musicianship and their relationships with one another.  If they're not up to it- it's ok to kindly ask them to leave.<br><br>It's a hard thing to do, but I've seen this philosophy lead to great success and unity within groups.  I've seen people leave and never come back, and I've seen people leave, grow up, and return refreshed and ready to work.<br><br>The mission behind what you're doing is far greater than any individuals wants, desires, or feelings, and having a wedge of pride or complacency between personalities is a detriment to the entire group.<br><br>Like I said, it's a hard thing to do- but I don't believe there's any room for bitterness, pride or sloth in what you do every week.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Made a little progress tonight;  introduced Iron Maiden&#039;s &quot;Run to the Hills&quot; as the opening worship song this week ... not!   :lol: Anyway, things are coming to a head, as two of the guitari...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Made a little progress tonight;  introduced Iron Maiden's "Run to the Hills" as the opening worship song this week ... not!   :lol: <br><br>Anyway, things are coming to a head, as two of the guitarists sat down with me and the worship leader after practice, and we talked about some of the things they should be thinking about when they're all playing together.  Mostly along the "orchestration" front, playing different parts, up the neck, etc.  So, that's good.  <br><br>The problem that has developed is some personal tension between them and the third guitarist (who was at practice but couldn't stay for the discussion ... or maybe they didn't ask him?  I don't know ... )  over their playing styles;  #3 is younger and tends to play more aggressively, while the others tend toward more basic strumming.  So I'm playing "camp counselor" now as well.   :( <br><br>Well, a half step in the right direction, I think.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Gabba Gabba Hey</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[ask iron maiden...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[ask iron maiden...]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>simon@home.co.uk</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I record MOST stuff in three whacks. But this is easy to hear since it is well defined and &quot;electric&quot;. Trying to sort out three acoustic guitars...not miked...all &quot;ka-chunka/ka-chunka&quot; is pr...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I record MOST stuff in three whacks. But this is easy to hear since it is well defined and "electric". Trying to sort out three acoustic guitars...not miked...all "ka-chunka/ka-chunka" is probably the toughest to split up so it's not all jumbled up.<br><br>I'd suggest one guitar only strumming simple and sustained chords...just one swipe per chord....LOUD! Let is sustain. Split the other two up...high three strings and low three (or reposition the chords hi &amp; low)...to feed off the decay of the first guitar. It'll be tough without someone on faders at the board...but...what can I say???<br><br>This is as simple as I can get from this head-scratch, I'm afraid...but I do think it'll suit even the most rudimentary of players.<br><br>Hope this helps...<br><br>Cat]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Ande,Your right alot of Sknyard is with three guitars

Check the Doobie Brothers during the Skunk Baxter era - they were very good at coming up with different voicings and patterns, etc, plu...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Ande,<br><br>Your right alot of Sknyard is with three guitars

Check the Doobie Brothers during the Skunk Baxter era - they were very good at coming up with different voicings and patterns, etc, plus tossing in a banjo or mandolin as needed.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Dan Lasley</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[So it&#039;s not just arrangement, it&#039;s ability.  :D 


Nail on the head, that.   Or, at least, a desire to learn and to improve.  I&#039;m not sure all of our guys have it ...  :cry:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[So it's not just arrangement, it's ability.  :D 


Nail on the head, that.   <br><br>Or, at least, a desire to learn and to improve.  I'm not sure all of our guys have it ...  :cry:]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Ande,Your right alot of Sknyard is with three guitars]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Ande,<br><br>Your right alot of Sknyard is with three guitars]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>cnev</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Maybe my memory&#039;s shot, but wasn&#039;t a lot of leonard skynyrd done with three guitars? When I think of bands I listen to that have more than two guitars, it seems that arranging parts is the k...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Maybe my memory's shot, but wasn't a lot of leonard skynyrd done with three guitars? <br><br>When I think of bands I listen to that have more than two guitars, it seems that arranging parts is the key. Three playing the same thing, for very long, gets a little hard and headachy. <br><br>When I think of bands I listen two with three guitars, though, I realize that all of them involve having somebody play stuff that I personally can't. So it's not just arrangement, it's ability.  :D <br><br>And being a church band maybe changes the priorities from those of a pro band- more important to include everybody than to sound perfect, imo. Sounds like you're doing fine and have some great ideas. GO slow with it, though. <br><br>Best,<br>Ande]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Ande</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: 3 guitars together = mush. How to improve the group dynamic?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Listen to Steely Dan&#039;s album AJA. 3 guitarists on many of those tracks. Larry Carlton says this is some of his favorite work that he has ever done. The concept behind 3 guitarists has to be ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Listen to Steely Dan's album AJA. 3 guitarists on many of those tracks. Larry Carlton says this is some of his favorite work that he has ever done. The concept behind 3 guitarists has to be orchestration and texture. Think this way and you can't go wrong.]]></content:encoded>
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