https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 17:50:48 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111873 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 05:17:12 +0000
Developing some ability to tell absolute pitch helps. Developing it (or being "cursed with it") to the degree that you can't ignore the subtle imperfections that come from being human beings playing analog instruments and not robots playing midi keyboards is almost certainly a problem.

I do work on my absolute pitch skills and find it helps my greatly in being able to "hear" scores in my head. But I can still stand listening to slightly out of tune instruments without going nuts.

Other people's milage may vary.]]> Guitar Players Discussion kingpatzer https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111873 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111852 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:37:05 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Anonymous https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111852 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111849 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:23:20 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Anonymous https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111849 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111822 Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:49:05 +0000
If you have constructive comments, negative or positive, you should feel free to post them.

Now we don't do the "this sucks" thing or post negatives about something you've never seen, used or played. That kind of irresponsible posting will ruffle feathers.

We have to maintain some sort of ethical standard otherwise what can you believe?]]> Guitar Players Discussion Nick Torres https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111822 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111819 Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:31:56 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion yoyo286 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111819 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111797 Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:29:47 +0000
However, i think when i wrote my initial post i didnt explain myself that well. What Im really seeking is te abililty to hear a note and say with confidence "that's a C. Or very close to a C." I know i dont have perfect pitch, and cant achieve it b//c youre born with it. However if the program were to be truly useful, id hope it would better my ear tenfold.

For example, Id like to hear the beginning of a song and immediately know the key and octave by mentally imagining where the note is on the fretboard instead of guessing i think its around here (and usually im very off).

If what im describing is perfect pitch, then sorry...but i think a few of you may have gotten the gist of it.
If any of you have suggestions to do ear training, please post away.]]> Guitar Players Discussion ElPelotero https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111797 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111787 Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:47:18 +0000

ARRRGH! Sorry whoever it was that posted the post between noteboat's. I clicked the X to close the page and I accidentally deleted your post. That was a first.

Please post your comments again. My apologies.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Nick Torres https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111787 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111780 Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:49:59 +0000
In addition, interviews I've read with brass players possessing perfect pitch point to another downside: if they play an instrument that's not in C (sax, clarinet, horn, whatever) they must transpose all their parts. A sax player possessing relative pitch will see a note on a page and relate it to a fingering... when he puts down the Bb instrument and picks up the Eb one, he relates it to the same fingering. Sax players with perfect pitch can't do that - because the note they play clashes with what's on the page. Instead, they must mentally transpose the chart to concert pitch, and then learn TWO sets of fingerings for the two horns.

Perfect pitch can clearly benefit some folks, such as a capella singers. Put them in ensemble, though, and they may be forced to 'think flat' or they'll be the one out of step with the choir!

So don't dismiss my comments as a case of "pitch envy". From my perspective, those who brag about having perfect pitch are speaking from a viewpoint of "ha ha, I'm better than you are!" without truly possessing any skill that makes them better musicians. Relative pitch is the key to performance.]]> Guitar Players Discussion NoteBoat https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-111780 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-109500 Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:44:21 +0000
But perfect pitch? What a drag that would be!

I used to have to learn a lot of songs off vinyl. In the 60s and 70s a lot of producers would 'tweak' tape speeds to get the sound they wanted. The result was a whole lot of recordings that were a little bit off in pitch.

Having only relative pitch, that didn't bother me a bit. I got a variable speed turntable, and I could dial the albums up or down so I could learn my parts without having to retune (and retune and retune).

Now, if I suffered from the affliction of perfect pitch, I imagine all those albums would sound awful. I mean, they'd be wrong - not quite C, not quite C# or Bb. So I see a big downside to learning perfect pitch... it shouldn't matter to you if the original is in E or Eb; the audience will never know the difference. It should matter a lot to hear the ii-V-I or I-IV-V changes, though, because that's what really makes a tune.]]> Guitar Players Discussion NoteBoat https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-109500 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-109422 Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:02:54 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Tim_Madsen https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/absolute-pitch-program/#post-109422