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                        <title>Re: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have exactly the same problem except it&#039;s the end knuckle on my left index finger.  The knuckle was damaged and it has a bump on the thumb-side.  It creates a gap between the two knuckles ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I have exactly the same problem except it's the end knuckle on my left index finger.  The knuckle was damaged and it has a bump on the thumb-side.  It creates a gap between the two knuckles that makes barre chords difficult - particularly chords where my finger is turned on its side.  I have been experimenting with the finger part of a glove that has a leather pad that fits in the groove between the two knuckles.  It is flexible enough to bend when not barring and narrow enough to fill the gap.  I think a rubber band about 1/2 inch wide would work fine.  The glove finger is strange looking and doesn't fit tight enough but it does work!<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Doktat]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/big-knuckles-barres-any-suggestions/paged/2/#post-245021</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 15:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[MicMac &amp; Vic...I made a mistake on my &quot;closed Bb&quot; fingering description....I thumb strings 5 and 6, and use my third  finger on the 2-3-4 strings, not my index.....sorry. :oops: Do...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[MicMac &amp; Vic...I made a mistake on my "closed Bb" fingering description....I thumb strings 5 and 6, and use my third  finger on the 2-3-4 strings, not my index.....sorry. :oops: <br><br>Dogbite...I sure DO use your "closed C7" position up the neck...yes, particularly for the six-note E7 in fret 5, but frequently in other frets as a four-note chord.<br>A nice additional feature of the closed C7 is the close proximity of the closed C9 series,  which is  x 3 2 3 3 3, and can give a jazzy flavor alternating with the dominant 7th...sliding up into those C9 chords gives a T-Bone Walker flavor.<br><br>Other "closed" chord shapes I use a lot up the neck, that involve thumb-hooking:<br>The "closed" Fm : 1 3 3 1 1 1 , with T, 3, 2, I, I, I<br>The "closed" Bbm : 1 1 3 3 2 1 , with T, T, 4, 3, 2, I<br>These are much easier from the fourth fret up, than they are down the neck.... :wink:]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 08:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Nice how Bowie uses that thumb to create the root in the chords.  He has large hands and has that luxury.  Funny, I don&#039;t see Bowie play much guitar these days.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Nice how Bowie uses that thumb to create the root in the chords.  He has large hands and has that luxury.  Funny, I don't see Bowie play much guitar these days.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/big-knuckles-barres-any-suggestions/#post-244949</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 05:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Vic: nice link to Bowie&#039;s video of Queen Bi ... b, b, britches 8) . His style in this is pretty much what I have been doing for years, straight ahead punchy rhythm and vocal. Thanks for the ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Vic: nice link to Bowie's video of Queen Bi ... b, b, britches 8) . His style in this is pretty much what I have been doing for years, straight ahead punchy rhythm and vocal. Thanks for the link, I really enjoyed it. This is is the second great guitar video link I have gotten from y'all (oops, sorry, I'm in the Deep South, USA). Chris C posted one of Django Reinhardt, also superb.<br><br>I see the chord clearly, a lazy A shape slid up &amp; down the neck. Handy for rhythm. Bowie seems to use A&amp;P fingers for the lower barre and thumbs the low E.<br><br>MicMac, Florida, USA]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 03:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good post Vic...I guess because that&#039;s exactly the finger position I&#039;ve been using for 40+ years instead of barres...I simply call it the &quot;closed F position&quot;...(I also have large hands)...I ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Good post Vic...I guess because that's exactly the finger position I've been using for 40+ years instead of barres...I simply call it the "closed F position"...(I also have large hands)...I also sometimes use the "closed Bb position", with the thumb over the two bottom strings, fretting strings 2,3,4 with my index finger, letting the first string mute....but I usually barre that instead.<br>I am 64, <I>so far </I>no arthritis in the hands....mine is in my knees. :wink:

hey big brother. I call it the closed F position too.<br><br>have you tried the 'closed' C7 position?<br><br>at the nut make the open C7. make sure the pinky is on the 3rd string 3 fret. C7.<br><br>move that shape up to the 5th fret.<br>you can play the big open E string as you pick the strings upwards.<br>you have E7 and that is right there for "Down on the Bayou".<br>move that shape up and down the fret board scale for the other chord 7th's.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 03:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[MicMac, the chord he&#039;s referring to would be played like this....E A D G B E1 1  3 3 3 xThe thumb would cover the E and A strings, and the index finger the D G &amp; B strings. Bowie used a ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[MicMac, the chord he's referring to would be played like this....<br><br>E A D G B E<br>1 1  3 3 3 x<br><br>The thumb would cover the E and A strings, and the index finger the D G &amp; B strings. Bowie used a B chord in this manner in "Queen B*tch" - that's a great song for learners, all the chords are majors, and the chords used in the song are A B C D E F and G! I play it in a similar fashion, but use my ring finger for the barre.<br><br>Here's a link - watch Bowie's fingers (and thumb!)<br><br><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=7rk6zkC6DBU">http://youtube.com/watch?v=7rk6zkC6DBU</a><br><br> :D  :D  :D <br><br>Vic]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 02:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi OdNt43: Please pardon, can you run that one by me one more time? Fret 2, 3 &amp; 4 with your index and thumb 5 &amp; 6? Is this one fret apart or on the same fret? Sounds like a great che...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi OdNt43: Please pardon, can you run that one by me one more time? Fret 2, 3 &amp; 4 with your index and thumb 5 &amp; 6? Is this one fret apart or on the same fret? Sounds like a great cheater chord.<br><br>Best, Michael in Florida, USA]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 02:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good post Vic...I guess because that&#039;s exactly the finger position I&#039;ve been using for 40+ years instead of barres...I simply call it the &quot;closed F position&quot;...(I also have large hands)...I ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Good post Vic...I guess because that's exactly the finger position I've been using for 40+ years instead of barres...I simply call it the "closed F position"...(I also have large hands)...I also sometimes use the "closed Bb position", with the thumb over the two bottom strings, fretting strings 2,3,4 with my index finger, letting the first string mute....but I usually barre that instead.<br>I am 64, <I>so far </I>no arthritis in the hands....mine is in my knees. :wink:]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 01:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the photo Vic. Gorgeous axe, BTW. Yes, that is the big time garage band moveable root chord but it has limits; voicing for one. Your hands must be bigger than mine because I can&#039;t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks for the photo Vic. Gorgeous axe, BTW. Yes, that is the big time garage band moveable root chord but it has limits; voicing for one. Your hands must be bigger than mine because I can't really wrap around that much on my Telly or my D-body. I hope you are getting over your injury and you get your strength back. I had similar problems with my right arm in 2000 that lasted more than 4 years. I couldn't even lift a cup of coffee or comb my hair. After neck surgery to correct nerve impingement I gradually got 95% range of motion back and about 70% strength and stamina. I feel lucky to be able to play again.<br><br>Chris, thanks for the video link to Django, which I haven't seen before. NOW what can I whine about?? Amazing player and an interesting human being as well.<br><br>Dogbite, good advice on being selective. I am trying to get more out of each position these days, picking 3-string arpeggios and such and learning to combine rhythmic strumming (like the guys behind Django) with small riffs. Not so easy because I have never been that great on technique up to now.<br><br>MicMac in Florida]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Big knuckles barres - any suggestions?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[micmac.  not quite the thumb over bashing...I hear ya!but as Vic shows. thumb over can do alot. you compensate and be more selective on the strings you hit. I also understand when you say th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[micmac.  not quite the thumb over bashing...I hear ya!<br>but as Vic shows. thumb over can do alot. <br>you compensate and be more selective on the strings you hit. <br><br>I also understand when you say there are times for a barre. yes, nothing like it.<br><br>I still don't like the prosthetic idea. but if you can get used to it.]]></content:encoded>
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