https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Fri, 05 Jun 2026 10:33:22 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/paged/2/#post-78158 Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:18:44 +0000 I did as you said and am getting close to my sound.
But for now..I'm gonna drink a couple of beers (5 or 6 actually) and just rock out for a few hours!
Later

MArshall]]> Guitar Players Discussion Marshallsw https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/paged/2/#post-78158 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/paged/2/#post-77865 Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:51:50 +0000
Theres a guy on one website about getting tone (i forget the one) that said he had a really nice old Marshall but he could not get a tone he wanted. It was way too scooped but he did not realize it. He just knew he didnt like the tone. Then a more experienced friend of his told him that the marshall he had responded differently than other amps. It is unique from amp model to amp model (or even individual amp to individual amp). He set the mids higher and the bass and treble lower and it got him the perfect metal tone (for him at the time).

So what I was trying to get at by all that was that the amp may not respond well to the mids being totally cut (or whatever) and you may not get the perfect tone.

Try everything out. Thats all I am trying to say.

PS- sorry I sounded a bit like an idiot in this post, im tired.]]> Guitar Players Discussion TaylorR https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/paged/2/#post-77865 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/paged/2/#post-77861 Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:55:50 +0000
Once you understand the basic signal chain, along with the use of EQ's and power attenuation you should be closer to your Quest. Below is a look at my signal chain. Which I experiment and change from time to time just to push the envelope to a higher level.

Guitar-> Wireless-> Stereo EQ (A & B)->
(Side A)
Pre-Amp(pre eq,*effects,post eq,*effects)->stereo eq->saturated stereo tube power amp->attenuator->speakers
(Side B)
Pre-amp(buit-in eq and chorus)->etereo eq->eaturated stereo power amp->attenuator->speakers
(Side A Attenuator out 1)
Volume Pedal->eq->saturated tube power amp->attenuator->speakers
(attenuator outs from both A & B)
Eq's->H&H power amps->Speaker cabinets

*Effects*
compressor,expander,distortion,exciter,eq,aes,reverb/delay

Hope it helps,

Joe]]> Guitar Players Discussion forrok_star https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/paged/2/#post-77861 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77791 Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:39:21 +0000 Which I think Eddy thought was a mistake, SO...he came out with the Peavey 5150 II head, which I think the only difference is, it has different tubes and 2 different Power Amp EQ's (Resonance and Presence) for Lead and Rythm.
But..I just spent $1,500.00 on this amp. I'm not EVEN about to spend another grand on the new head..
And I have only had this amp for a month and a half..I just need to tweak it to my exact likes. like you all said]]> Guitar Players Discussion Marshallsw https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77791 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77777 Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:43:32 +0000
That was one thing I saw on the front panel of the amp that was a little different - there's two channels, but only one set of tone controls. The manual says both channels share the tone controls and that's sort of the problem: you can't really set each one different. Well, maybe it's not a problem for some folk who play in a certain style. But now that you've made it clearer what you're after, I'm thinking that one way to get around what the amp has is to get maybe a BOSS MetalZone or similar type pedal. I'm only using the MetalZone as an example because I've used one, but there's lots of other good ones out there.

The thing about the MT-2 is that it has its own eq built in and you can dial in a real mid-scooped sound just from it. Then you could set your Rhythm and Lead channels the way you like, and when you want the mid-scooped rhythm sound, select your clean Rhythm channel and punch in the MT-2. It would be like having 3 separate channels. Then for the solos, click the MT-2 off, switch channels and have your Lead sound come out the way you want.

That might be one way of doing it.]]> Guitar Players Discussion DemoEtc https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77777 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77774 Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:36:43 +0000
1st channel=clean
2nd channel=crunchu
2nd channel+booster pedal (using the EQ on the booster!)=lead.

This way you could push the gain slightly further (which would make it too muddy for tight metal rhythm), and raise the mids/lower the bass using the EQ on the booster.

I think the biggest problem is trying to raise freqs that you dialed down on the amp. getting the bass down shouldn't be too hard, but raising the mids on a scooped amp might not really work. What might work better is raising the mids and using the GE7 to lower the mids during rhytm work, and de-activate the GE7 and activate the booster for solo's. That way you'll still be scooped during rhythm, wihtout losing the mids when it's time to cut through with a solo.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Ignar Hillström https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77774 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77772 Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:29:24 +0000 See, let me start all over.
I'm happy with my clean sound which is my Rythm Channel, and I'm VERY happy with my Lead channel.
As you said, get a good amp sound first. Well, I have my ideal distortion on my lead channel. I mean..the distortion I'm getting from this monster is AWESOME, I love it. But the solo sound...just isn't my cup of tea. For example, I could play nu-metal songs alllll day..and be VERY happy with the sound, but say I go back to some Metallica songs, I can get that heavy distortion sound they have, but when I go to play a solo..it's just...not what i want.
In a nutshell, I want to have Bright, glassy-toned clean sounds, Heavy distortion with lots and lots of low and high end. And then..I want a toneful, mellowy sounding solo sound, for example, Eric Johnson. He has one of the best solo sounds i've heard, so does Eddy Vanhalen, Jimmy Page, John Petrucci and so on.
I can't stand just flipping over to the Lead channel and busting out a solo with no mids and too much bass.
WHICH is why i got the equalizer. I was going to hook it up through my FX Loop, and set it on top of my amp, and just hit the Effects button on my foot switch.
So maybe...if I just set up my Lead channel to have the sound I want for my solos, then set the GE-7 up to have my rythm heavy metal distortion sounds...THEN I'd be set.
Anyway.. I have four pedals an amp, and 2 guitars.
Pedals
Boss GE-7 Equalizer
Boss CS-3 Compression Sustainer
Boss AC-2 Acoustic Simulator
Boss NS-2 Noise Supressor

Amp
Peavey 5150 Half stack

Guitars
Peavey Preditor Plus, with 2 stock single coil pickups and an EMG-85 humbucking bridge pickup.
Ibanez 7-string, with 2 stock Dimarzzio humbuckers.

I really need to get a new guitar...hehehe...I like the Peavey for solos because of the low action and sustain, and I like the 7-string for that extra kick in the metal distortion sound.

hmmmmmmmmmm....I guess I just need to do as you said..and tweak..]]> Guitar Players Discussion Marshallsw https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77772 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77770 Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:57:05 +0000
Now as far as your clean channel, that would depend on what sort of music you're going to be doing and from what you've listed, the clean sounds might have a little crunch and distortion to them anyhow. If you want a really clear, clean rhythm channel and a distored overdriven lead channel, then set them up that way. For your rhythm channel, put the pre-gain on zero and the post-gain on whatever loudness you want. It should come out nice and clear. Then, like you said, make the Lead channel as distorted and overdriven as you want.

And this would be even before you add your graphic eq pedal and compresser. Start with a good amp sound with no effects and then work from there.

Now if you need 3 different sounding channels, Clean, Crunchy and Distorted, then you could add some sort of distortion/overdrive pedal in your signal chain. Or get a 3 channel amp, but I don't think you'll need that. But with a distortion/overdrive pedal, you could set the Rhythm channel for totally clean and use that for certain things, then set the Lead channel for slightly dirty so you can play rockish rhythms with it. Then when you want a lead sound, you can just stomp on your distortion/overdrive pedal and get the sound you want.

But like we're saying, start by getting a good amp-sound first, then you can add stuff to it as you go.]]> Guitar Players Discussion DemoEtc https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77770 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77754 Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:27:55 +0000 There's a Rythm Channel, then a Lead channel.
You can set the rythm channel to be just good ole rythm sounding distortion, but take the edge out with the crunch and Bright Switch.
The lead channel you can go all out on.
You guys are telling me to take out EQ from the amp to use the Boss GE-7 Equalizer..
I don't want for the pedal to just work without screwing my sound over, I want to boost my lows and high's even further then they already are.
WHICH...The Boss GE-7 isn't allowing me to do.
Without screwing the sound up ofcourse.
So I could just turn my rythm channel into a distortion/power chord/blah blah blah channel, and set my lead channel up for solos...BUT..where can I get my clean channel in at?]]> Guitar Players Discussion Marshallsw https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77754 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77742 Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:53:50 +0000
Finally, use the EQ for subtle changes. The basic sound from the amp should be good, and the EQ should then make it even better. If you have to use very wild EQ settings on the Boss unit something is definitely not correctly setup on the amp itself. So remove all effect boxes, set the peavey up, add the EQ, polish it up. Then use any other pedals and use the internal EQ on them to have them fit in well, and if need be *slightly* change the Boss EQ to accomedate to the new FX units.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Ignar Hillström https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/boss-pedals-and-the-overall-effect/#post-77742