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									Can it be a Mental Thing? - Guitar Players Discussion				            </title>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2015 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t say natural talent applies because even if you dont work hard &quot;talent&quot; can only take you but so far. when i began learning chords i read this one article the teacher said to place...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I wouldn't say natural talent applies because even if you dont work hard "talent" can only take you but so far. when i began learning chords i read this one article the teacher said to place your fingers on the chord and while keeping your fingers in the chord shape take it off and on the fret board. try doing this in the dark. (If what i said made any sense). This worked for me and don't worry it took me a year to master open chords everything is always at your pace. But try the game rocksmith, hat helped me alot with chords and other techniques. I'm also an athlete and even with talent you still have to practice twice a day for two hours to better yourself.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Kister91</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/can-it-be-a-mental-thing/paged/2/#post-386221</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2015 21:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think key is slow it. Never play it faster then you can play it easy and perfect. I don&#039;t care if its crawling. Use a Metrodome and swith from say A to D. (Like weights in high school) if ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think key is slow it. Never play it faster then you can play it easy and perfect. I don't care if its crawling. Use a Metrodome and swith from say A to D. (Like weights in high school) if your at 80bpm whole notes. And your able to turn it up one notch each day. 81 the next. In a a month your at 120bpm  whole notes. Go back to 60bpm and do half notes. In 2 months your doing 90bpm in half notes. You may be able to jump up quicker then that. But you HAVE TO PRACTICE THAT DAY TILL IT BORING EASY. Then just a click, or 2 if it feels like you can. But you have to also do practice that next day till its boring easy too. I did this for a bit when younger and jeted up on scales. Then I stupidly stoped and just was happy jamming. I'm still pretty decent, but if I would of stayed with that, man. I had this great Jazz guy Wesley teaching me this way down in South Fl in the 80. He used to be with Miami Sound Machine. But that didn't show his abilities at the time. Now he's faded some (saw some vids) but he ripped in the 80s. To make it funner just do two chords of a song you know, but start in slow motion.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>bluetransam838</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 09:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yep, it just takes longer.Most &quot;Naturally talented&quot; children tend to burn out by the time they&#039;re 20; the School system doesn&#039;t teach about handling the pressures of staying at the top of th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yep, it just takes longer.<br><br>Most "Naturally talented" children tend to burn out by the time they're 20; the School system doesn't teach about handling the pressures of staying at the top of the game.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Alan Green</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 07:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Believe it or not, this is what I learned from Will Smith from one of his interviews - There are 2 things that will make you succeed - Talent and Skill. Talent naturally comes within you. Sk...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Believe it or not, this is what I learned from Will Smith from one of his interviews - <br><br>There are 2 things that will make you succeed - Talent and Skill. Talent naturally comes within you. Skill, on the other hand, requires you to spend hours in beating your craft.<br><br>So if you have a natural talent in playing guitar, then it's easier for you to pick it up. But if you don't have one, it's still achievable through spending lots of time in practicing your guitar.<br><br>So what does this mean to you? If you think that you don't have the natural talent, then keep practicing, and you will eventually get there. :)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>fanomar</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2015 00:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Part of what you are doing when learning guitar is teaching yourself muscle memory.  Other aspects are tempo and tone quality.  With my day job we tell our knee patients not to limp after th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Part of what you are doing when learning guitar is teaching yourself muscle memory.  Other aspects are tempo and tone quality.  With my day job we tell our knee patients not to limp after their surgeries.  We tell them to walk as slow as it takes as not to limp.  "Why?", they ask.  "Because", we tell them, "that way you won't have to unlearn the limp when the pain that causes it goes away".  Mind you, this doesn't work for everyone but the point here is that muscle memory is a big part of playing a guitar and making it appear effortless.<br><br>So playing chord change progressions and limping along will retard your progress.  Try slowing down until it sounds correct and then while practicing, increase the tempo, working back and forth between slower and faster tempo.  At some point, in order to play the chord progression at the correct tempo, you may want to practice it faster than the correct tempo and then eventually the correct tempo won't seem like it is too difficult anymore.<br><br>Another muscle memory trick is alternating the above technique with the closing your eyes technique and practicing blind.  Slow down and listen to the pace where the sound quality is best, no matter how slow, and then repeat that pace for a pre-specified amount of time - say 2 minutes or whatever seems a little too long.  Do it every day, at least once to as many times as you have time to practice with some rest time in between. As you get better and it gets easier, bump up the pace, and if it begins to sound not perfect, slow it back down.  Repeat.<br><br>The next level of muscle memory training combines doing two things at the same time in preparation for playing and singing without actually playing and singing at the same time.  I came across this technique decades ago when I first started listening to music while skiing.  I found out rather quickly that it is incredibly easy to get going way-too-fast while skiing when you first begin listening to music at the same time.  All the sound your skis make that correlates with going fast are gone and replaced with music.  So, all the speed corrections you make in light of those fast skiing noises are missing too. After having several (painful) going way-too-fast crashes, I began paying more attention to the input coming from my legs to gauge how fast I was going.  in other words, I was retraining my brain to do 2 things at once and improving the one that, without such remedial skill instruction, would be more painful.  I had to learn to disassociate listening to the music from paying attention to my legs' input. <br><br>So, for this level of muscle memory training (that doesn't involve the falling pain of skiing) practice your chord progressions while watching TV (if you watch TV).  It will teach your brain to pay just enough attention by letting your muscle memory be in charge of the chord changes while the brain can focus on the dialog of what you are watching on television.  This form of cross training is not for everyone and it can be incredibly annoying if you are watching a program with someone else who is trying to listen to the TV while you are going through the same chord progression over and over.  <br><br>If you don't watch TV (or even if you do and want a cross training change-up) you can also cross train by changing your body position, what ever you normally do, change it. If you normally sit while playing, stand up.  If you normally sit on a chair while playing guitar, try sitting on a stool.  When standing, vary your standing posture or how your guitar hangs on your torso.  Change it while you are playing while trying to keep the chord progression at a constant quality and tempo.  You will find that some things will just not work at all while others seem to have little effect on your playing quality and tempo.  You'll also find that this cross-training activity can help prepare you for some aspects of stage craft - how to move around on stage and make it look ok while you are not feeling uncomfortable doing it.<br><br>These cross training methods will help you learn to actively disassociate what you are doing with your guitar while passively allowing your muscle memory to develop and take over some of the spatial control that doesn't really need our full attention after a certain degree of proficiency is achieved.  A good analogy here is learning to drive a car.  Over time, much of what initially seemed moderately overwhelming becomes increasingly less so.  Also, I'd suggest this cross training being done in addition to, and <B>not</B> in in lieu of, regular practice time.<br><br>Good luck and best regards,<br>Steve]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>llamaslider</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2015 03:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think with enough practice, most people can learn the technique of playing an instrument. Some will take more hours than others, but as long as you aren&#039;t deformed in any way, you should b...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think with enough practice, most people can learn the technique of playing an instrument. Some will take more hours than others, but as long as you aren't deformed in any way, you should be able to learn all the techniques.<br><br>Whether you become a talented player is something you won't find out until you get past the technical hurdles.<br><br>It takes a child a long time to learn how to write. But everyone who learns how to write doesn't have the talent to become a good author. Without learning how to write first, the rules, the grammar, the devices, you will never know if you have the talent to become a great author.<br><br>So my advice is to not worry about it, just practice, and see where it takes you. If  you have the luxury of having a good teacher, you will probably learn much faster.<br><br>Insights and incites by Notes]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>notes_norton</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 22:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[For the most part I think MOST people can learn to play to a decent level. Most people give up because it isn&#039;t easy and many people don&#039;t realize how much time the greats actually spent at ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[For the most part I think MOST people can learn to play to a decent level. Most people give up because it isn't easy and many people don't realize how much time the greats actually spent at it. In my experience you are probably fine.<br><br>The one thing I think you do need... and i am really not sure how to fix it - or if it can be fixed is a bad sense of time. If your time is bad... not many people can overcome that. You can still play and enjoy the journey and all that. But as far as becoming a monster player, you may need to adjust the bar a bit.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>jerrycasemusic</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2014 05:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Much good advice given here,  particularly &quot;observe what your doing&quot; and subsequently not doing. The movement to a chord is always led by a dominant finger identifiable as the one that gets ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Much good advice given here,  particularly "observe what your doing" and subsequently not doing. The movement to a chord is always led by a dominant finger identifiable as the one that gets to its place first. For me, this is rarely, if ever, the one that gives me the problem, unlike the one that gets there last. Practice inverting this movement. Force yourself into leading off with the problem finger and observe what's going on. It may be a simple solution like turning your wrist just a little more so that the thicker part of the finger is more parallel to the neck instead of across it. This exercise will not only help you to play cleaner chords but also change chords more quickly. Another common bad habit is, pressing down too hard. If you are doing this you are forcing more meat onto the field that will ultimately mute an adjacent string. If you really HAVE to muscle the strings then you have an action problem. Most new guitars come off the line with the nut set too high making open chords difficult to play and most players as well as techs, tweak the truss and bridge and don't even touch the nut.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Bruceye</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Some guitars suit the hand differently from others, too. But the conundrum seems to be &quot;if you are a beginner...how do you know&quot;??? I can&#039;t answer that one...except (as NOTE said) be more aw...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Some guitars suit the hand differently from others, too. But the conundrum seems to be "if you are a beginner...how do you know"??? I can't answer that one...except (as NOTE said) be more aware of exactly what dynamics your fingers are experiencing. Me...even after five decades...there are times I have to concentrate on if the meat of a fingertip is messing up an adjacent note. Practice......]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Can it be a Mental Thing?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2014 01:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I firmly believe that music is a language.  Can anyone learn to speak a new language?  Yes, at least a bit.  Can everyone become eloquent?  No.Learning anything - not just music - is really ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I firmly believe that music is a language.  Can anyone learn to speak a new language?  Yes, at least a bit.  Can everyone become eloquent?  No.<br><br>Learning anything - not just music - is really about problem solving.  And solving a problem starts with making sure you're asking the right question.<br><br>You say you're struggling with chords... all chords?  Some chords?  Is there some common flaw - a string that always seems off?  A finger that never seems to find its place?  "I'm no good at chords" is a generalization, and you want a specific problem, like: every time I fret Am, the third string sounds dead.<br><br>Next you observe - watching your fingers closely, as Alan suggested.  Are you landing on top of the fret instead of behind it?  Is some other part of your hand getting in the way?<br><br>Then you have awareness of what's wrong, and you come up with a drill to work on it.  Go SLOWLY - you're trying to do it right every time, so you form a habit of doing it right.<br><br>Then you move on to the next problem.  And there's always a next problem - in one practice session this past week I spent 20 minutes playing just two measures of music, over and over.  I probably played the same 8 beats a couple of hundred times.  Habits don't form quickly, and problem habits take even longer to break.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>NoteBoat</dc:creator>
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