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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be replacing switches on this guitar too. epiphone are known for their cheap switches and the first Epi I bought had a problem with switches. For whatever reason they seem to s...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm sure I'll be replacing switches on this guitar too. epiphone are known for their cheap switches and the first Epi I bought had a problem with switches. For whatever reason they seem to skimp on the switches they use in their guitars.

I've replaced 3 stock ones on Epi's and 1 on the PRS SE. The replacements doing well so far.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll be replacing switches on this guitar too. epiphone are known for their cheap switches and the first Epi I bought had a problem with switches. For whatever reason they seem to s...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm sure I'll be replacing switches on this guitar too. epiphone are known for their cheap switches and the first Epi I bought had a problem with switches. For whatever reason they seem to skimp on the switches they use in their guitars.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[New strings just might be it, as others have said. My last GC wall-job had the nastiest strings I ever saw. (it was a very pretty guitar and I&#039;m sure it got lots of play time. Might also exp...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[New strings just might be it, as others have said. My last GC wall-job had the nastiest strings I ever saw. (it was a very pretty guitar and I'm sure it got lots of play time. Might also explain why I had to replace a switch so soon.)]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[well I went home last night and did a recheck of the LP and nothing looked off. Retuned the guitar and was going to give it another comparison with the Strat trying to keep in mind what gnea...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[well I went home last night and did a recheck of the LP and nothing looked off. Retuned the guitar and was going to give it another comparison with the Strat trying to keep in mind what gnease had mentioned about the differences.<br><br>Of course as soon as I break out the Strat I broke a string and I never checked to see if I had any replacements but I'm pretty sure I do.<br><br>So I went back to the LP and played it unplugged. Didn't sound quite as bad last night as it did before, not as bright as the Strat but not as bad as my ear was hearing.<br><br>Plugged it in and kept the volume pretty low and just played Red House for awhile (well up to the solo since that's all I know yet) and it sounded OK so now I'm questioning whether or not this is really a serious problem. Played I few othr songs and at least plugged in it seemed fine.<br><br>I'm afraid if I brought it to GC they'd look at me like I was whacked out because the difference in sound was not that evident and I'm sure they wouldn't do anything for me.<br><br>I have practice tonight with the band so I may ask the other guitar player if he wouldn't mind playing the guitar so I culd hear how it sounded.<br><br>So now I'm thinking a new set of strings and I'm probably going to be OK but I'll probably get a complete setup down just because.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[was that with or without the shipping foam still under the bridge? few stores bother removing that snippet of scratch protector from beneath the floating bridges. if you are serious about an...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[was that with or without the shipping foam still under the bridge? few stores bother removing that snippet of scratch protector from beneath the floating bridges. if you are serious about an Ibanez Artcore with floating bridge, insist that tone-sucking sonic decoupler be removed and the bridge re-adjusted before the 'audition.' unfortunately, half the owners probably still have it there.

Dang. I'll have to take a look at them next I go to a store and look at the new, shiny things. Curious now, although the Gretsch purchase has long since been made and won't be switching.<br><br>Besides, I still have GAS for yet another stupid Epiphone. The LP Prophecy GX. It might be a 1 year no smoking prize come, um, September 21st.  :D]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I did steer clear of some Ibanez Hollowbodies because the first two of them really sound bad, somehow, accoustically. Plugged in was different obviously, but I still didn&#039;t dig the tone as m...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I did steer clear of some Ibanez Hollowbodies because the first two of them really sound bad, somehow, accoustically. Plugged in was different obviously, but I still didn't dig the tone as much as the Gretsch or the Epiphone models I was looking at.


was that with or without the shipping foam still under the bridge? few stores bother removing that snippet of scratch protector from beneath the floating bridges. if you are serious about an Ibanez Artcore with floating bridge, insist that tone-sucking sonic decoupler be removed and the bridge re-adjusted before the 'audition.' unfortunately, half the owners probably still have it there.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I jusr checked. I really had forgotten how they sound with no juice. Not too bad. Then again, I am an LP kind of guy and my ear isn&#039;t that well trained. Take it for what it&#039;s worth.I did ste...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I jusr checked. I really had forgotten how they sound with no juice. Not too bad. Then again, I am an LP kind of guy and my ear isn't that well trained. Take it for what it's worth.<br><br>I did steer clear of some Ibanez Hollowbodies because the first two of them really sound bad, somehow, accoustically. Plugged in was different obviously, but I still didn't dig the tone as much as the Gretsch or the Epiphone models I was looking at.<br><br>My ex-strat has always sounded cruddy to me unplugged and plugged. I'm sure you seen the posts. Funny though, is that I do have three guitars with the strat shape and they sound good. My PRS with the strat-style trem reverberates through the body like nothing else I have. It's a solid body too, no pick guard with swimming pool under it. My squire Tele sounds better than that Strat ever did, and that's with a string buzzing trying to block the sound. (just found that out now. Looks like I have something else to do tomorrow. :)  )]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Agreed. I guess my thinking is that the chances that you&#039;d get a really bad chunk of wood or neck is very minimal compared to all the other things that can cause the problems although it cer...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Agreed. I guess my thinking is that the chances that you'd get a really bad chunk of wood or neck is very minimal compared to all the other things that can cause the problems although it certainly is possible.<br><br>OK I'm just trying to convince myself that I didn't get one of these one-in-million true lemons.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Chris: you are correct that a guitar is a system. there is a lot of complex interaction between parts. if a design, material or build technique proves itself good and gets recognized as such...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Chris: you are correct that a guitar is a system. there is a lot of complex interaction between parts. if a design, material or build technique proves itself good and gets recognized as such, that item or technique gets adopted into the library of general knowledge of goodness. that's one of the reasons companies clone guitars -- the materials, shapes, placement attachment methods of parts and piece are likely to be successful if certain essentials are copied (and the market loves cheaper knockoffs too). no time and $$ for research necessary. but even in a tried and true design as simple as a Fender Tele, sometime a guitar will be made with a truly inferior piece of wood, and will be sonically dead -- and there is nothing to do about it but change the body or body + neck to fix it. guitars like these sit somewhere in lower long tails of the bad-to-good bell curve continuum. they do exist. it's more likely to occur for some designs than others*. so these nasties float around until someone who doesn't 'know' gets it and keeps it, someone who does know trashes it or parts it out, or until it gets lost in an attic right next to that perfect '58 Jazzmaster, or ... <br><br>so your LP, could be crap due to a bad piece of wood. its somewhat unlikely, but possible. the best way to tell is tweak the adjustments, refresh the strings and compare it to other LPs.<br><br>* Joe Naylor of Reverend used to explain that is was far easier to reproduce a good timbre in a guitar made of laminates than solid tonewood. why -- because the timbre was more determined by controlled design parameters and a simple material than  by a bulk material with variable properties (ash, mahogany, maple ...). produce one good guitar design with very uniform phenolic laminates and it's merely step and repeat to produce 10,000 of them. and he's produced some great guitars this way.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Christmas Present Part II - Need Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Been re-examining my own guitar habits most of the morning, which is a healthy thing to do now and then....I seldom if ever really &quot;shop&quot; for guitars.  I go into a store &quot;just to look,&quot; and ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Been re-examining my own guitar habits most of the morning, which is a healthy thing to do now and then....<br><br>I seldom if ever really "shop" for guitars.  I go into a store "just to look," and something will follow me home, like a stray dog.  I've tweaked at least one of my stray dogs for 30 years, with good results.  Even so, it's possible to be too patient with problematic instruments.  At the same time I dream about guitars I let get away, so there's no good answer for me.  Changing everything is a viable option if you can do (or afford) the work, and if you're incredibly patient (or obsessive-compulsive).  <br><br>If I were <I>deliberately</I> shopping for an electric guitar today, with what I know now, I would bring my headphones and Line 6 Pod 2.0.  Definitely would pay close attention to unplugged sounds; but I'd spend some good time with the electronics, as well.<br><br>I will however always prefer my stray puppies.]]></content:encoded>
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