https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 07:03:07 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-348241 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:52:00 +0000
Also allow for a bit of fun at each practice session. Once you go through your routine then start to learn songs. Try to play everything that is playing on the radio also it is a good idea to get together with other guitar players and play and have a good time.]]> Guitar Players Discussion ZebraSteve https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-348241 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-346384 Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:17:27 +0000 I have to admit I enjoy this more and weirdly this is something I am able to do by ear given that I've listened to the track a few times I now know roughly where it is played on the neck, so I can see the shape in my head.

Is this something that is frowned up for someone learning. Appreciate your opinions. :roll: This is obviously a very opinionated topic . Since you asked , my opinion is that if a song has a very recognizable solo it should be played as close as possible to the original . My reasoning for this is that you wouldn't cover a song and sing the lyrics with a totally different melody , would you ? People would expect to hear the melody sung as originally written . Why is the guitar solo different ?
That being said I believe note for note solos aren't absolutely necessary and something done in the style of the artist is completely acceptable if it captures the feel of the song . What I don't like to hear is someone playing a bunch of scales disguised as a guitar solo . A solo has to say something other than " Look how fast I can play !"]]> Guitar Players Discussion Diceman https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-346384 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-346277 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:40:19 +0000
Im a fan of the old stuff as Kee Marcello and John Norum are just amazing melodic shredders, always had me in awe as a young'un. Try EuropetheBand.com and check the forums. People seem to trade tabs on their fairly often. The chord sheets are easy to find too, so you could probably use that as a basis to work out the solo.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Kroikey https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-346277 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-346252 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:08:17 +0000
I tend to try the studio version first. I think it does alot of things especially for the newer player. It makes you really learn the techniques and it's impossible to fudge it, you either can play the part as written or you can't.

When I hear alot of people say that playing the studio version is a crutch or someone can just listen to the record maybe that's true but it takes skill to play those solo's (unless they are really easy) and my personal opinion is that alot of those people say that because they can't actually do it, so they put the twist on it that I'm making it my own.

Sure they are making it there own and one out of a hundred might even be worth listening to but most are just a stripped down simplified version that sux.

If you are playing in a rock cover band I think most people want to hear the original solo just like on the record. that's is why we liked the song in the first place.

And by the way I am not an expert, nor am I close to an expert so this is just a persnal opinion here.

But once you have a bunch of these solo's down you can take what you've learned and start applying them to your own.

These things can and probably should be happening at the same time, learning note for note solo's and working on your own imrov.

I find that when I am improving my hands see much more relaxed and timing wise I'm OK but the solo's themself aren't anything to write home about. Sometimes I'll get an awesome riff or lick in there but I rarely can duplicate it. But when i play the solo's as written I do tend to get a bit tense always so concious of what the next note is suppsoed to be and how it needs to be played. If I pull it off then it sounds like the record if I don't it sounds like hack.

But this is something that is on the top of my list to improve.]]> Guitar Players Discussion cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-346252 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-346249 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:21:27 +0000
That said, it's great practice to sometimes learn the solos from players you like. When I improvise, I play the stuff I can play. Right now, I'm working on a Gary Moore solo that I can't play. By doing it Gary's way, instead of mine, I'm learning some of his licks and techniques, using techniques I rarely use, and putting more tricks in my bag. (Specifically, I chose this piece cause I thought it would work on my bending, legato, and vibrato.) You can learn a heck of a lot by learning other people's solos, especially if they are players whose styles you want to emulate in your own solos.


Best,
Ande]]> Guitar Players Discussion Ande https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-346249 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345965 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:27:15 +0000 I have to admit I enjoy this more and weirdly this is something I am able to do by ear given that I've listened to the track a few times I now know roughly where it is played on the neck, so I can see the shape in my head.

Is this something that is frowned up for someone learning. Appreciate your opinions.

I will of course continue to learn by ear as I have been doing as it is something of a challenge for me and I enjoy the difficulty (most of the time)

As far as the lessons go which were commented on at the start of the thread, I have looked at a few and made a start and will continue to eat as much information as I can, though after a few lessons I feel myself drifting off into an improvisation and thus all learning pre-10minutes is wasted :roll:]]> Guitar Players Discussion guitaristanime https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345965 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345953 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:34:52 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345953 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345938 Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:16:10 +0000
Not an expert. Tabbing it out yourself by ear is a skill that is well worth developping
and, I hope for my sake, will become easier in time. Knowing the key and where the
notes are will help immensely

How I try to do this,
Make sure that you can know it so well that you can sing/whistle/hum it to yourself.
Hold the note in your head
Find note on Fretboard,
Next note, higher/lower a lot/little, with time you will recognise intervals.

or

Cheat: There are some vids on you tube that show covers of this solo. One in particular
shows the fingering quite clearly.]]> Guitar Players Discussion easewlad https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345938 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345900 Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:23:42 +0000
Is there somewhere I can post for help on this sort of thing here on the forum? Maybe I am approaching this all wrong..]]> Guitar Players Discussion guitaristanime https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345900 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345685 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:48:14 +0000
As suggested... pick a few songs and learn them all the way through. I am only about a year into learning... but I spent a long time learning a few bars of a lot of songs... but really never learning to play anything. Since my instructor "told me to"... I have settled down and chose only a few songs to play. I have switched them around a few times, added some more and in only a couple of months can now play 3 or 4 songs pretty well all the way through and have about 10 songs that I can now play pretty decent.

This has increased my enjoyment dramatically, increased my focus, made my wife very happy and has given me a good second wind of interest in playing when I previously almost gave up learning. My technique has improved a lot, as I am forcing myself to learn all parts of the song, including the hard parts... not just intro's and riffs.]]> Guitar Players Discussion lue42 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/experts-needed/#post-345685