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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/how-not-to-send-lyrics/paged/2/#post-94155</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I remember MSN has a very similar paragraph in the agreement and has done for a couple of years now.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I remember MSN has a very similar paragraph in the agreement and has done for a couple of years now.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>DaveC</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How not to send lyrics...</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/how-not-to-send-lyrics/paged/2/#post-94063</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t do it via AOL IM... :shock: Although you or the owner of the Content retain ownership of all right, title and interest in Content that you post to any AIM Product, AOL owns all right, ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Don't do it via AOL IM... :shock: <br><br>Although you or the owner of the Content retain ownership of all right, title and interest in Content that you post to any AIM Product, AOL owns all right, title and interest in any compilation, collective work or other derivative work created by AOL using or incorporating this Content. <I>In addition, by posting Content on an AIM Product, you grant AOL, its parent, affiliates, subsidiaries, assigns, agents and licensees the irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to reproduce, display, perform, distribute, adapt and promote this Content in any medium. You waive any right to privacy. You waive any right to inspect or approve uses of the Content or to be compensated for any such uses.</I>

This paragraph has generated a whole lot of flak for AOL, and they're changing it to address the copyright and privacy concerns. Seems a lawyer got a bit overzealous....<br><br>here's a link .  .  . <a href="http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1776146,00.asp">http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1776146,00.asp</a>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Moonrider</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/how-not-to-send-lyrics/paged/2/#post-94019</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Bono is probably under contract, the studio or label more than likely owns the right of assignment. Bono may have right of rejection for any reuse, but he probably doesn&#039;t own his stuff outr...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Bono is probably under contract, the studio or label more than likely owns the right of assignment. Bono may have right of rejection for any reuse, but he probably doesn't own his stuff outright.<br><br>If you own the copyright in conjuction with another party, you may or may not have assignment rights. <br><br>Copyright law is not simple, except in simple cases. Add in contract law and it gets real muddy real fast.<br><br>In the case most of us would find ourselves in -- we are working as the primary author on an original work with no contractual burdens, then we'd have the right of assignment. So when we send it to our collaborator over AIM, AOL now owns the work.<br><br>Long story short -- don't use AIM. :)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>kingpatzer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/how-not-to-send-lyrics/paged/2/#post-94016</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t matter if you own the copyright, what matters is if you have the legal right to assign the copyright. As the producer of the content, you most often will have that right.

 :shock...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[It doesn't matter if you own the copyright, what matters is if you have the legal right to assign the copyright. As the producer of the content, you most often will have that right.

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: <br><br>I'm not getting this...  You can have the legal right to assign it without owning it?!??]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>undercat</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/how-not-to-send-lyrics/paged/2/#post-93969</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 04:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Bono has the ability to assign copyright, so the answer would be no right? This is nice and confusing.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I don't think Bono has the ability to assign copyright, so the answer would be no right? This is nice and confusing.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Taso</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Laz, according to the AIM aggreement by AOL, if you have the right to assign copyright, then you do so if you use AIM for collaborative efforts.It doesn&#039;t matter if you own the copyright, wh...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Laz, according to the AIM aggreement by AOL, if you have the right to assign copyright, then you do so if you use AIM for collaborative efforts.<br><br>It doesn't matter if you own the copyright, what matters is if you have the legal right to assign the copyright. As the producer of the content, you most often will have that right.

So what you're saying is that if I send some U2 lyrics over AIM, no harm, but if Bono does, then AOL owns the song, even though U2 may have sold 6 billion copies of an album containing those lyrics?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>undercat</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/how-not-to-send-lyrics/paged/2/#post-93903</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Laz, according to the AIM aggreement by AOL, if you have the right to assign copyright, then you do so if you use AIM for collaborative efforts.It doesn&#039;t matter if you own the copyright, wh...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Laz, according to the AIM aggreement by AOL, if you have the right to assign copyright, then you do so if you use AIM for collaborative efforts.<br><br>It doesn't matter if you own the copyright, what matters is if you have the legal right to assign the copyright. As the producer of the content, you most often will have that right.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>kingpatzer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/how-not-to-send-lyrics/paged/2/#post-93900</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I belive that timing is involved.  If you have a copyrighted song, and you later send the lyrics (or sound file), AOL can&#039;t claim the author&#039;s copyright.  They can&#039;t claim that they wrote it...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I belive that timing is involved.  If you have a copyrighted song, and you later send the lyrics (or sound file), AOL can't claim the author's copyright.  They can't claim that they wrote it, nor can they sell it.  However, it might be sent all over the world for free.  I think this is the reason for the clause: they don't want to be sued for distribution of emails containing copyrighted materials.<br><br>And, as a private space (as ntoed above), they retain the right to assist the authorities pursuing illegal activities.  Conversely, many ISPs insist that they must protect the privacy of their accounts.  The RIAA has been fighting through that mess (not to start that discussion).<br><br>I'm guessing at some of this.  <br><br><I>"Often in error, never in doubt!"</I><br><br>-Laz]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Dan Lasley</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good thing I don&#039;t use AOL.  Good thing my stuff stinks so bad nobody would want it.   :D

But understand: AOL (ISP) and AIM are two different things owned and operated by AOL-the-Company. T...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Good thing I don't use AOL.  Good thing my stuff stinks so bad nobody would want it.   :D

But understand: AOL (ISP) and AIM are two different things owned and operated by AOL-the-Company. The first is a paid service, the second a 'free' service -- agreements and encumberances are different for each.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>gnease</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: How not to send lyrics...</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good thing I don&#039;t use AOL.  Good thing my stuff stinks so bad nobody would want it.   :D]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Good thing I don't use AOL.  Good thing my stuff stinks so bad nobody would want it.   :D]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Crank-N-Jam</dc:creator>
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