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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/paged/2/#post-184669</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yeah you do have to search for the good info in that thread,  but it&#039;s in there if you are prepared to sift through the other stuff.Some useful tips indeed.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yeah you do have to search for the good info in that thread,  but it's in there if you are prepared to sift through the other stuff.<br><br>Some useful tips indeed.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>chuckster</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/paged/2/#post-184651</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The thread on Harmony Central concentrates on the content of the auction, which is easy to correct. I&#039;ve noticed a change in their descriptions, over the last couple of weeks. They&#039;re learni...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The thread on Harmony Central concentrates on the content of the auction, which is easy to correct. I've noticed a change in their descriptions, over the last couple of weeks. They're learning!<br>Some have, already, stopped putting in close-ups of the headstock. <br>The worst problem is EBay, though. Getting them to do something is getting very hard. These sellers put in 4 or 500 hundred items, each with a listing fee of say 50p. If ebay pulls the auction, they must refund the listing fee. What do you think is going to happen? NOTHING!!!<br>I wonder if, by taking no action, they become accessories to fraud? They are aware that what is being sold is counterfeit and take no action - surely, that is a crime?<br><br>Edit: I've looked again at Harmony Central and see that I messed a few pages, that have some good info.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>greybeard</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/paged/2/#post-184613</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 03:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Great work. You are not alone in your quest greybeard.  There is a sticky in the electric guitar forum over at harmony central dedicated to reporting fakes on ebay.  I guess it&#039;s a little li...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Great work. You are not alone in your quest greybeard.  There is a sticky in the electric guitar forum over at harmony central dedicated to reporting fakes on ebay.  I guess it's a little like trying to stop the tide - but it all helps.

BTW there is some good info on that thread on tell tale signs to look out for which gives the game away that it is a fake (apart from the obvious that its from China).<br><br>Can you post a link on that forum]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>duffmaster</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/paged/2/#post-184610</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 03:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well I was talking about the shape of the headstock, rather than the U / O thing, but I guess your point holds up either way.Anyway, a &quot;Gibsun&quot; SG just showed up on the DC Craigslist.  Jerk ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Well I was talking about the shape of the headstock, rather than the U / O thing, but I guess your point holds up either way.<br><br>Anyway, a "Gibsun" SG just showed up on the DC Craigslist.  Jerk is asking $750 for it.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>slejhamer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/paged/2/#post-182682</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good work, Greybeard!  Those headstocks are pretty funny, too.  If you&#039;re going to cheat, why make it so obvious?

It&#039;s not. Suppose you&#039;re playing live, nobody is going to see whether that&#039;...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Good work, Greybeard!  <br><br>Those headstocks are pretty funny, too.  If you're going to cheat, why make it so obvious?

It's not. Suppose you're playing live, nobody is going to see whether that's an U or an O. People will just assume it's a real Gibson, so they'll assume you're a really cool guitarist. It's just as much about faking the player as having the player fake the rest of the world.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Ignar Hillström</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/paged/2/#post-182681</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Great work. You are not alone in your quest greybeard.  There is a sticky in the electric guitar forum over at harmony central dedicated to reporting fakes on ebay.  I guess it&#039;s a little li...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Great work. You are not alone in your quest greybeard.  There is a sticky in the electric guitar forum over at harmony central dedicated to reporting fakes on ebay.  I guess it's a little like trying to stop the tide - but it all helps.<br><br>BTW there is some good info on that thread on tell tale signs to look out for which gives the game away that it is a fake (apart from the obvious that its from China).<br><br>It's also worth noting that at least one UK ebayer is buying dodgy guitars from China and them selling them on for a profit using the same username  :roll:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>chuckster</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/paged/2/#post-182671</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I believe that I may have scored a slightly bigger hit. Whilst I was waiting for some work to finish, I occupied myself with listing all the auctions for fake guitars from one Chinese suppli...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I believe that I may have scored a slightly bigger hit. Whilst I was waiting for some work to finish, I occupied myself with listing all the auctions for fake guitars from one Chinese supplier and reported them to Ebay. <br>He is now no longer a member of Ebay. 1 down, too many to go.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>greybeard</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/paged/2/#post-181690</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Nice job Graybeard, you just saved some saps from buying some fakes.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Nice job Graybeard, you just saved some saps from buying some fakes.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>duffmaster</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/#post-181638</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 17:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good work, Greybeard!  Those headstocks are pretty funny, too.  If you&#039;re going to cheat, why make it so obvious?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Good work, Greybeard!  <br><br>Those headstocks are pretty funny, too.  If you're going to cheat, why make it so obvious?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>slejhamer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Ibanez Counterfeit Warning</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ibanez-counterfeit-warning/#post-181631</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[As I was in a really good mood, this weekend, I decided that, whilst I was waiting for an auction to finish, I&#039;d report one guy&#039;s stuff to ebay. Within a few hours, 40 of his auctions had di...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[As I was in a really good mood, this weekend, I decided that, whilst I was waiting for an auction to finish, I'd report one guy's stuff to ebay. Within a few hours, 40 of his auctions had disappeared.<br>I've a good mind to write to Gibson, about these Chinese sellers, although they probably know already.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>greybeard</dc:creator>
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