https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:44:37 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136993 Sun, 06 Nov 2005 07:52:16 +0000
1) Resistence, Koch Powersoak
2) Induction, THD Hotplate
3) Speakerdriver, Weber Mass

If you are really serious/anal about your tone get neither of these and build an isolation box instead. The Hotplate has to be predominantly resistance or it would likely damage an amp -- regardless of what the marketing BS says.

Putting a driver (speaker cab) in an isolation box will alter its tone -- unless that box is quite large.]]> Guitar Players Discussion gnease https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136993 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136938 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:35:48 +0000 He never uses a sustainer pickup, although a compressor maybe, not sure]]> Guitar Players Discussion simon@home.co.uk https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136938 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136842 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:52:56 +0000
1) Resistence, Koch Powersoak
2) Induction, THD Hotplate
3) Speakerdriver, Weber Mass

If you are really serious/anal about your tone get neither of these and build an isolation box instead.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Ignar Hillström https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136842 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136841 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:58:41 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion mad_guitarist https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136841 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136818 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:12:49 +0000
Regarding attenuators, low-power amps etc: my tube amp, a Galaxy 10 (with JJ tubes substituted) is already fairly low power. It is only 10W. (I could have gotten a 6V6 power amp tube, which would have made it even lower power). Even so, if I really crank the gain, it is really lound, that's where the thinking about an attenutator came in. But, I don't plan to do that soon anyway. The main reason for getting the G10 was to get that slightly breaking blues tone, which I love. I can get a reasonable version of that tone with the gain about half-way and the volume at about 7 or 8, without being too too loud. Would be nice to get that breakup at lower volumes, but it is ok. At this point, the amp does most of what I want, and between that and the VOX, I have plenty of capability in the amps for my level of playing :-). The weakest link it the chain is definitely me, by a long long shot! And on the equipment side, probably a semi-hollow guitar with some P10s or humbuckers would be more of what I need for that bluesy tone (I love B.B..).

But, once again, thanks for all the suggestions. It has been very informational, and I may plan to get a compressor and attenutor some day when my playing has reached a level where those things make a difference.]]> Guitar Players Discussion vink https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/paged/2/#post-136818 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136813 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 04:36:47 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Ignar Hillström https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136813 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136811 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 04:32:09 +0000
Is It Love by T. Rex

This is a difficult song to get ahold of. I don't know what Marc Bolan was using, but he was holding single notes forever. I cannot think of any recording where I have heard more sustain than this song.

I don't believe he was using an e-bow. You can hear that. A good example is Heros by David Bowie. That is the e-bow.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Wes Inman https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136811 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136807 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 04:24:15 +0000 Really? Now you're really tempting me to get an attenuator for that Galaxy 10, and I had resolved that I won't spend any more money on that for a while, it was supposed to be a cheap tube amp The pros use lots of tricks. Often in the studio a low power amp is used. The amp is pushed to saturation. In addition, effects and compression are used. So you have to remember this when you listen to any recording.

You will be surprised how great a little amp can sound pushed. I used to take my little Premier amp to Open Mics. It is maybe 5 watts total. I would turn it up full and mic it into the PA with distortion and overdrive pedals into it. I could hold notes for what seemed like forever. But I was not using an attenuator. There was no need. This amp does not get very loud. It has to be mic'd to use live.

The most important thing is tone. If you can get the tone, you can get the sustain various ways.

And McDouggy is correct. A lot of this is just feedback. But when your amp is really cranked, you can get feedback on any note really.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Wes Inman https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136807 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136765 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:36:02 +0000
Don't have my gear at hands at the moment but for the Code Blue Blues collaboration I used the Vox AD30 and a compressor pedal. It's the 4x10 amp model, low gain and some medium compression. I used a noise gate to cut the sustain but it shouldn't be too hard to imagine how it would sound with heavy compression and no gate, if you care I can record that when I get back. Since you already have the Vox amp you'd only need a compression pedal to get such a sustain. Mine was $19 new but they exist in every priceclass you can imagine.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Ignar Hillström https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136765 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136758 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:25:51 +0000
EDIT: Why the heck does f.e.e.d.b.a.c.k (feedback) come up as embrace?]]> Guitar Players Discussion mcdouggy https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/incredbile-incredibly-long-sustain/#post-136758