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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Actually, this 10,000 hours is an interesting number. There&#039;s a cool paper where they studied a lot of different people: chess players, athletes, and the like. They concluded that natural ta...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Actually, this 10,000 hours is an interesting number. There's a cool paper where they studied a lot of different people: chess players, athletes, and the like. They concluded that natural talent isn't as important as putting in the time. To get to a level that people consider to be 'mastery' you need 10,000 hours of practice, which works out to be ~3 hours a day for 10 years (about 1,000 hours of practice a year). <br><br><a href="http://www.icleps.org/Papers/Ericsson%20et%20al%20Psych%20Rev%201993.pdf">http://www.icleps.org/Papers/Ericsson%20et%20al%20Psych%20Rev%201993.pdf</a> (warning big pdf file!)<br><br>But if 10,000 hours is mastery, then the real question is what is the number of hours you need where you're 'reasonably good'. I would think that's much less...<br><br>That being said, I'm trying to learn guitar, piano, and voice, well enough to write interesting songs and perform them, so that's 4 different 'things' to get 'reasonably good' at, it seems :)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>redpoint</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[ok -- how about balancing reasonably good in a reasonable amount of time :)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[ok -- how about balancing reasonably good in a reasonable amount of time :)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>kingpatzer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[After practicing guitar for a few hours, sax for a few hours, I can&#039;t imagine moving over to the piano stool . . . 


Well, I think it depends on what you consider &#039;reasonably good&#039;. I think...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[After practicing guitar for a few hours, sax for a few hours, I can't imagine moving over to the piano stool . . . 


Well, I think it depends on what you consider 'reasonably good'. I think you can get pretty decent at guitar if you play four hours a day ten years long. So I think you could just as easily good at four instruments if you practice each one hour a day for fourty years. Seems possible to me.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Ignar Hillström</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 06:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You didn&#039;t leave any time for GIRLS!  What&#039;s the point of playing guitar/piano/bass/tuba if the GIRLS don&#039;t dig it?

Yea, I&#039;ve got the girl that digs it also... we usually go out once a week...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You didn't leave any time for GIRLS!  What's the point of playing guitar/piano/bass/tuba if the GIRLS don't dig it?

Yea, I've got the girl that digs it also... we usually go out once a week or so, depending.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Oric</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Only your hands are occupied when playing guitar...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Only your hands are occupied when playing guitar...]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Ignar Hillström</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You didn&#039;t leave any time for GIRLS!  What&#039;s the point of playing guitar/piano/bass/tuba if the GIRLS don&#039;t dig it?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You didn't leave any time for GIRLS!  What's the point of playing guitar/piano/bass/tuba if the GIRLS don't dig it?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>dhutson</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The answer to the question is &quot;no.&quot;If you have school, any sort of social life, and are trying to play that many instruments, you won&#039;t have time enough to keep up with it all.I think the pr...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The answer to the question is "no."<br><br>If you have school, any sort of social life, and are trying to play that many instruments, you won't have time enough to keep up with it all.<br><br>I think the practical limit for most people is two instruments. More than that and it's just not possible to put in the time it takes to be reasonably good.<br><br>It takes a rare level of personal discipline to do more than that. After practicing guitar for a few hours, sax for a few hours, I can't imagine moving over to the piano stool . . .<br><br>If you want to never watch TV, never go out, put in minimal effort on school work, etc., then sure it's possible.  <br><br>But most people don't care to have their lives that focused.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>kingpatzer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I always thought Dave Grohl was a great drummer in that particular style he played with Nirvana. Man, he really smacked them drums hard.  :twisted: Paul MacCartney is pretty good on guitar a...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I always thought Dave Grohl was a great drummer in that particular style he played with Nirvana. Man, he really smacked them drums hard.  :twisted: <br><br>Paul MacCartney is pretty good on guitar and piano besides being a great bass player. He can sing too.  :D]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Wes Inman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I know I know nothing about drumming, but Grohl&#039;s one of the three people who&#039;s drumming has ever made me stop and really appreciate it... gotta be worth something, even if only to me :wink:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I know I know nothing about drumming, but Grohl's one of the three people who's drumming has ever made me stop and really appreciate it... gotta be worth something, even if only to me :wink:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Misanthrope</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Is it possible to keep up with everything?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 18:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Sure, there are lots of people who play multiple instruments - heck, I play six.  But I look at the people named in pop/rock, and I think they fall into one of several categories:1. They&#039;re ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Sure, there are lots of people who play multiple instruments - heck, I play six.  But I look at the people named in pop/rock, and I think they fall into one of several categories:<br><br>1. They're good at one (Dave Grohl on guitar), and passable at another... because of the musical style (is Grohl's drumming with Nirvana world class, or did he get a bit of a ride on Cobain's songwriting?)<br><br>2. They're good at one (Winwood on keyboards) and play another because it allows the band to do things in concert without bringing in other musicians (Winwood on guitar with Blind Faith), or because it's entertaining to swap instruments on stage.<br><br>3. They're good at one (Prince on guitar), and take advantage of technology to lay down other tracks... I think ego plays a big part with Prince!<br><br>So at least in my opinion, there's a difference in ability between someone who plays multiple instruments for their own purposes/interests... and someone like Roy Clark, who's hired to play various instruments by others - not because it's cool to show that Roy plays a bunch of things, but because Roy plays that specific thing better than anyone else who is available.<br><br>I also deliberately excluded folks like Tommy Tedesco and Tom Bruner, the studio guys who each probably did 10,000 record/film/TV dates.  You'll find each of them with credits on guitar, banjo, balalaika, sitar, whatever.... but as far as I know, they really treated each of those as variations of a guitar (playing a manodlin tuned in fourths - like a guitar - instead of fifths, like a mandolinist would)<br><br>Another reason I don't consider most of the pop-rock guys multi-instrumentalists is because I don't think of myself that way - I'm a guitarist.  I studied percussion in college, played drums in the college jazz band, I've sat in with a local orchestra on timpani a few times, and I've been paid to be the drummer with a local theatrical show.  But I don't keep my chops up - if somebody offered me an interesting percussion gig, I'd have to invest quite a few hours of practice before I could take it on; as a result, I don't bill myself as a drummer.<br><br>Or piano... I took five years of classical piano lessons.  If you don't play any piano, you'd hear me and think "hey, he plays piano!".  If you play piano, and you heard me, you'd think "well, that's nothing special..."<br><br>So in the end my opinion's still the same: there are lots of people, including me, who 'play' many instruments.  But there aren't many "multi-instrumentalists"...  I have the same sort of divide in my mind between "guitar players" and "guitarists" :)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>NoteBoat</dc:creator>
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