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									I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything - Guitar Players Discussion				            </title>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Since my last post, I have spent a few hours practicing with a thicker pick than the one I began with, and I must say that I am feeling much better.  I&#039;m learning that it now requires more o...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Since my last post, I have spent a few hours practicing with a thicker pick than the one I began with, and I must say that I am feeling much better.  <br><br>I'm learning that it now requires more of a wrist movement mixed with the movements of the two fingers that hold the pick, i.e. my thumb and index finger.  It reminds me of the difference between picking up rice with my fingers as opposed to using chop sticks! :-)  Now I guess it is more like "target practice," a phrase used by the "Piano Guy" (on PBS).  Finger picking still is more natural; I seem to never have to look at my picking hand -- my fingers just land on the right strings.<br><br>I intend to practice only flatpicking with a bit of hybrid picking on my electric since I am concentrating on the solo style with it.  I will continue finger style with my acoustic without a pick.  This will give me the best experience in both worlds, right?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Ezmo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I abandoned the pick years ago although I appreciate hearing a well-picked song.  I wonder if David Hodge&#039;s song lessons are &#039;picked?&#039; I suppose it makes a world of difference when learning ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I abandoned the pick years ago although I appreciate hearing a well-picked song.  I wonder if David Hodge's song lessons are 'picked?' I suppose it makes a world of difference when learning a song not knowing if it's meant to be flatpicked or fingerpicked.  I try David's way first - he prefers  the 'less is more 'approach and I usually get frustrated trying to pick in the exact same way that he does so in the end I'm going full out in my usual arpeggio style creating a song that I've made 'my own' anyway.  Ie.  Julia - not sure I'll ever get that song right. Also the picking pattern makes a difference in song presentation if I add vocals too than if it's just instrumental, right?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>sapho</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well I have tried thumb picks. There were just too uncomfortable for me, as for fingerpicks I always figured they would sound similar to my nails. Even if they were better I would find it ha...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Well I have tried thumb picks. There were just too uncomfortable for me, as for fingerpicks I always figured they would sound similar to my nails. Even if they were better I would find it hard to switch. I am so used to playing without them.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>MaxRumble</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I would always fingerpick ecept for the two drawbacks that I see. I find the fingerpicking does not make for as clear tones and they have less volume.Those are the reasons to use fingerpicks...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I would always fingerpick ecept for the two drawbacks that I see. I find the fingerpicking does not make for as clear tones and they have less volume.</blockquote>Those are the reasons to use fingerpicks.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Ricochet</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s good for guitarists to do both fingerpicking and flatpicking, but it&#039;s not required.When Wes Montgomery started gigging, other guitarists told him he&#039;d be faster if he used a pi...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think it's good for guitarists to do both fingerpicking and flatpicking, but it's not required.<br><br>When Wes Montgomery started gigging, other guitarists told him he'd be faster if he used a pick.  So he got one, and spent three months practicing with it all day... and found that at the end of that time, he was a bad flatpicker and a bad fingerpicker.  He figured he had to decide, so he went back to his thumb-style.<br><br>I disagree that flatpicks are more precise than fingers - but I will say you can learn to control a flatpick in a lot less time than controlling your fingers.  Flatpicking technique can be pretty decent in a couple years; figure five years for fingerpicking control to do the same things.  At the end of that time, though, you'll be able to do more than a flatpicker, even one who's good at hybrid picking - you've got so many more choices.<br><br>Take a simple figure, like a bass note followed by three treble notes.  The flatpicker really has two choices at decent speed: D-U-D-U or D-D-U-D.  The fingerpicker has six: PIMI, PMIM, PMAM, PAMA, PIMA, PAMI.  Fingerpicking also gives you more control over the timbre - you can adjust the angle of your fingers slightly to attack with more or less of the nail.<br><br>It's true that for many guitarists, wrist speed is greater than finger speed.  That's only because you've worked the wrist/foreram muscles more than the fingers.  Look at any practiced musician who has right hand finger work - piano, trumpet, sax - and you'll see those fingers can move just as quickly as the wrist.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>NoteBoat</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Actually, it&#039;s not like 4 picks at all, fingers can&#039;t upstroke. Also, the pick is much more precise

I agree that it is not quite like 4 picks but I disagree with the rest of the sentence. F...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Actually, it's not like 4 picks at all, fingers can't upstroke. Also, the pick is much more precise

I agree that it is not quite like 4 picks but I disagree with the rest of the sentence. <br><br>Fingers can't upstroke? I am curious how you fingerpick. Besides If you are picking single notes what does it matter if you are doing upstrokes or downstrokes? The fingers also allow for picking two, three or even four non adjacent strings at a time which is not possible with a pick. You can also mix in strumming (including partial) with your thumb or index finger.<br><br>Also I believe the fingers are much more precise. Once someone has a picking pattern down cold you can do it in your sleep.<br><br>All this being said I love to play with a pick just as much as picking.<br><br>I would always fingerpick ecept for the two drawbacks that I see. I find the fingerpicking does not make for as clear tones and they have less volume.</blockquote>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>MaxRumble</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ive-picked-up-a-pick-and-now-i-cant-do-anything/#post-123825</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Why? you are using a thumb and usually 3 fingers, thats like having 4 picks all playing at the same time.
Actually, it&#039;s not like 4 picks at all, fingers can&#039;t upstroke.  Also, the pick is m...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Why? you are using a thumb and usually 3 fingers, thats like having 4 picks all playing at the same time.
Actually, it's not like 4 picks at all, fingers can't upstroke.  Also, the pick is much more precise, and to top it off, maybe the biggest difference is that finger motion comes from your finger tensors, while your pick motion comes from your wrist.<br><br>For me (and most people) the speed of your wrist moving both up and down is noticibly faster than the fingers, even if you're using more than one of them on the same string.  Of course, in terms of definition and consistency, the pick has a huge advantage, which makes increasing your speed easier too.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>undercat</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Pick size makes a ton of difference, I think.  I started with a thin but I use mediums now.Geoo]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Pick size makes a ton of difference, I think.  I started with a thin but I use mediums now.<br><br>Geoo]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>geoo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/ive-picked-up-a-pick-and-now-i-cant-do-anything/#post-123774</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[What gauge pick are you using?  A thin gauge may actually slow you down.
That&#039;s a good question, I don&#039;t know but it seems very thin.  It is an old, mostly worn one that I found many years a...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[What gauge pick are you using?  A thin gauge may actually slow you down.
That's a good question, I don't know but it seems very thin.  It is an old, mostly worn one that I found many years ago on the street. :oops:   I guess I never really thought about pick guage before.  I have some other random ones that I think are thicker so I will try them to see if it makes any difference.  What you said makes perfect sense to me, thanks.<br>I am with Mikespe, work on one hand at a time even if it means just picking the open strings to get the pattern down.

This seems like a brilliant idea, and I will try it immediately.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Ezmo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: I&#039;ve picked up a pick and now I can&#039;t do anything</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 23:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I am with Mikespe, work on one hand at a time even if it means just picking the open strings to get the pattern down.I am also in agreement with MaxRumble.A good fingerstyle player can play ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I am with Mikespe, work on one hand at a time even if it means just picking the open strings to get the pattern down.<br>I am also in agreement with MaxRumble.<br>A good fingerstyle player can play much faster than a flatpicker.<br>Why? you are using a thumb and usually 3 fingers, thats like having 4 picks all playing at the same time.]]></content:encoded>
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