https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:31:33 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/paged/2/#post-168799 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:18:11 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion greybeard https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/paged/2/#post-168799 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168794 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:40:28 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Misanthrope https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168794 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168773 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:11:06 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion greybeard https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168773 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168762 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:33:53 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion gnease https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168762 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168739 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:02:36 +0000
Anyway, I'm not sure how Fender handles that...

Weird that PRS would be targeted by Gibson... wonder if that has anything to do with McCarty?]]> Guitar Players Discussion The Dali https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168739 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168725 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:19:08 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion pearlthekat https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168725 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168724 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:00:08 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Off He Goes https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168724 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168710 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:28:00 +0000 Dali Lama, how does that work with G&L being able to cope Fender designs?]]> Guitar Players Discussion xg5a https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168710 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168656 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:21:03 +0000 Gibson sued Ibanez, not really because of the headstock, but because the quality of the Ibanez guitars was at least as good, if not better, than Gibson's (not necessarily the woods, but the attention to detail and quality control) and was taking market share. Gibson needed to find a way to get at Ibanez - hence the lawsuit (as if history was repeating itself, this was probably the reason why Gibson got into the ill-fated wrangle with PRS).
A number of other Japanese manufacturers "voluntarily" changed their headstock designs, presumably to avoid having a lawsuit from Gibson. Urban legend tars them with the same brush as Ibanez, even though there were no known threats from Gibson.
To many, this pre-1975/6 period, became the "lawsuit" period. Sellers like to use this as "quality by association" - if that's what was really behind Ibanez getting sued, then all those others, who changed their headstocks, must also have been worrying Gibson with the quality of their gear, even though, in fact, there were no other lawsuits. There are many who regard all this "lawsuit" tosh as fact and will pay a premium to have a "lawsuit" guitar, no matter who made it, just as long as the seller puts "lawsuit" in the sales blurb, that's fine.
Having said that, some of the guitars of that period, such as Tokai, do have a reputation for very good quality, irrelevant of the whole lawsuit thing. One Japanese guitar that never changed it's headstock, though, was the Orville, but that was Gibson's own Japanese brand name (it was the middle name of one of the original Gibson family).]]> Guitar Players Discussion greybeard https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168656 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168651 Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:01:15 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Ricochet https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/lawsuit-and-gibson/#post-168651