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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I usually try to figure out the chords first. I strum along until I&#039;ve got all the chords, then I try to follow the picking pattern.... but only if it&#039;s a really distinctive pattern. Other t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I usually try to figure out the chords first. I strum along until I've got all the chords, then I try to follow the picking pattern.... but only if it's a really distinctive pattern. Other times I play something similar with a little twist to fit my own playing style. <br><br>So pretty much, just do as you do to learn songs with strummed chords, then try out a couple of picking patterns on the I chord. Lots of times the picking pattern is repeated through the chords, sometimes there'll be a small variation at intervals. <br><br>All the best]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>kachman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Not to beat a dead horse but I got my new capo today.. YEAH.. and imported the song into Audacity.  It is really a pretty easy song with it capo&#039;d at the second fret.  Thanks again for you g...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Not to beat a dead horse but I got my new capo today.. YEAH.. and imported the song into Audacity.  It is really a pretty easy song with it capo'd at the second fret.  Thanks again for you guys help and more importantly the lesson.  <br><br>Jim]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>geoo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t have to suppose. That&#039;s exactly what you&#039;re doing! Instead of playing the song in E, you&#039;re playing it in D, which is one whole step (two frets) lower. Nice work on figuring all th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You don't have to suppose. That's exactly what you're doing! Instead of playing the song in E, you're playing it in D, which is one whole step (two frets) lower. <br><br>Nice work on figuring all this out, Jim.<br><br>Peace]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>David Hodge</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[No confusion at all Wes, thanks for that.  I am going to get another capo tomorrow so until then I am just playing it with those shapes but a key lower I suppose.. Is that right?Jim]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[No confusion at all Wes, thanks for that.  I am going to get another capo tomorrow so until then I am just playing it with those shapes but a key lower I suppose.. Is that right?<br><br>Jim]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>geoo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Jim Here are three ways to play the F#m7 chord, I think the first one shown will suit this song with moving bassline best. The B7sus 4 is very easy to hold, and there are two ways to hold th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Jim<br> <br>Here are three ways to play the F#m7 chord, I think the first one shown will suit this song with moving bassline best. The B7sus 4 is very easy to hold, and there are two ways to hold the Bm7. I would use the second Bm7 I have shown, again because you will find it easier to move your bassline. Barre chords using the index are not as good when you have moving notes in the bass, you want an individual finger to be holding one note. I hope I haven't completely confused you by saying that. But here are the chord forms, try all of them, but I have a strong feeling this player used the forms with the * under them. <br><br><CODE><i>
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  F#m7           B7sus4  Bm7
e-2r---2i---2i----0------2i----2r--
b-2r---2i---5p----0------3m----3p--
g-2r---2i---2i----2r-----2i----2m--
d-2r---2i---2i----1i-----4r----X---
a-X----4r---4r----2m-----2i----2i--
eâ€”2m---2i---2i---------------------
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						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Wes Inman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It looks spot on, Jim  - good job.Remember since this is primarliy finger picking, you can have some freedom with the chords. For instance, on Gm6, try the 3x0330 fingering and don&#039;t play th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[It looks spot on, Jim  - good job.<br><br>Remember since this is primarliy finger picking, you can have some freedom with the chords. For instance, on Gm6, try the 3x0330 fingering and don't play the low A string. <br><br>And if I ever find myself <I>anywhere</I> in Oklahoma, consider yourself recipient of a free lesson. Likewise if you're ever up this way.<br><br>Peace]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>David Hodge</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[David, I have a better idea..  I will pay you 30 bucks for a half hour guitar lesson and you can bring them to Oklahoma by hand.   :D It would be a tax write off, correct?  All kidding aside...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[David, I have a better idea..  I will pay you 30 bucks for a half hour guitar lesson and you can bring them to Oklahoma by hand.   :D It would be a tax write off, correct?  All kidding aside I will PM you my new address now that I am married.  (Did I mention that?)<br><br>ON TO THE SONG<br><br>So this is what I came up with (Great lesson by the way)<br><br>My original chords were<br><br>E<br>B<br>C#m7<br>C#7sus4<br>Am6<br>A6/G#<br>F#m7<br>G#m7<br>B7<br>G/F#<br>Em7/D<br><br>And I felt like they should transpose to<br><br>D<br>A<br>Bm7<br>B7sus4<br>Gm6<br>G6/F#<br>Em7<br>F#m7<br>A7<br>F/E<br>Dm7/C#<br><br>Now if that is correct then I can instantly see how that would help.  I recognize many of the transposed chords.  There are still some that I find very difficult just by looking at them but it might be that once I start learning those chords that I dont know (IE:  F#m7, B7sus4, Bm7, etc) then I might learn some new chords I like.<br><br>and unfortunately no, I dont know standard notation.  I am not totally ignorant to it (I played piano some a while back) but its not familiar to me.<br><br><br>Jim]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>geoo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 06:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well frustration is setting in because I cannot find my capo to try anything.. :(  so rather than being sulky I was trying to figure out how those chords would look if I capo&#039;d the second an...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Well frustration is setting in because I cannot find my capo to try anything.. :(  so rather than being sulky I was trying to figure out how those chords would look if I capo'd the second and played the D chord shapes.  So the E becomes a D, and the B becomes an A.. correct?<br><br>When I get to the C#m7 I get confused.  I dont want someone to figure it out for me.... but is there something I could look at to have it makes sense so I can try to figure out the next ones?<br><br>Thanks<br>Jim

Good on you, Jim! <br><br>You're right about the E and D. Now, following along with the "I don't want someone to figure it out for me" rules, I'd suggest you give this old article a read:<br><br><a href="https://www.guitarnoise.com/article.php?id=53">https://www.guitarnoise.com/article.php?id=53</a><br><br>and then think about the relationship (how many musical steps) between E and D, and also how B and A relate and then you should get it.<br><br>PM me your hard mail address again and I'll send some of these out to you. Can you read notation?<br><br>And Kent - great smiley! Love it! Some people suspect it's all the forehead slapping I did as a youth that led to my hairstyle...<br><br>Peace]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>David Hodge</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 06:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[(*is there a smiley for &quot;slapping one&#039;s forehead really, really, really hard?     :wink:    )

You can borrow this one  from my collection, if you want And, I am in awe of those of you who h...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[(*is there a smiley for "slapping one's forehead really, really, really hard?     :wink:    )

You can borrow this one <a href="http://members.shaw.ca/pileofstuff/smilies/eusa_doh.gif"><img src="http://members.shaw.ca/pileofstuff/smilies/eusa_doh.gif"></a> from my collection, if you want <br><br>And, I am in awe of those of you who have ears developed enough to do what you did in this thread.<a href="http://members.shaw.ca/pileofstuff/smilies/bow.gif"><img src="http://members.shaw.ca/pileofstuff/smilies/bow.gif"></a>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>kent_eh</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Learning a song by ear</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 04:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well frustration is setting in because I cannot find my capo to try anything.. :(  so rather than being sulky I was trying to figure out how those chords would look if I capo&#039;d the second an...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Well frustration is setting in because I cannot find my capo to try anything.. :(  so rather than being sulky I was trying to figure out how those chords would look if I capo'd the second and played the D chord shapes.  So the E becomes a D, and the B becomes an A.. correct?<br><br>When I get to the C#m7 I get confused.  I dont want someone to figure it out for me.... but is there something I could look at to have it makes sense so I can try to figure out the next ones?<br><br>Thanks<br>Jim]]></content:encoded>
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