https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 07:49:18 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100238 Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:46:11 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion DemoEtc https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100238 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100222 Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:34:49 +0000
Cnev, yes - if you pick a different key for ease of fingering, you just move the capo the appropriate number of frets. And yes, all fingerings are relative to the capo as the nut - a G chord with a capo at 5th fret works out to

8
5
5
5
7
8

but it's fingered like a regular open G.]]> Guitar Players Discussion NoteBoat https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100222 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100219 Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:27:12 +0000
Thanks. I finally got it. Although I would still have to look at a chart to figure the chords out but at least I know how.

Two last points then I think I have it.

1.) You can put the capo on any fret but when you figured out the chords they may not be the easiest to play so you might pick a different key? Yes?

2.) And whatever the chords are in the new key you would play them the same way relative to the capo. In other words if the capo was on the second fret and the progression called for a G chord you would play that relative to the capo three frets down but you are physically on the 5th fret. Correct?]]> Guitar Players Discussion cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100219 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100216 Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:06:46 +0000
Vic]]> Guitar Players Discussion Vic Lewis VL https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100216 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100205 Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:09:50 +0000
Take the progression in the original key, and assign Roman numerals. Say you want to do "Reelin' in the Years". The verse progression goes:

A-Bm7-A-D-A-Bm7-A-A7-D#º-Dm-A-Bm7-A

With the original tune in the key of A, you assign Roman numerals:

I-ii-I-IV-I-ii7-I-I7-#ivº-iv-I-ii7-I

Now let's say you're going to capo on 4 and play a second guitar part. Four whole steps down from A is F, so you apply the Roman numerals to F and get the chords to play:

F-Gm-F-Bb-F-Gm7-F-F7-Bº-Bbm-F-Gm7-F

Pretty simple, really.]]> Guitar Players Discussion NoteBoat https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100205 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100204 Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:48:22 +0000

Using your last example can the capo just be moved to any fret see what that key is then use the roman numerals to figure out what chords to be played?

Chris]]> Guitar Players Discussion cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-100204 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-99695 Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:33:40 +0000
The easiest way to cope with that is by learning the Roman numerals of the chords in each key. If the guitar part is in G, and goes:

G-Em-Am-D7-G

You can think of that as I-vi-ii-V-I

So now you've got capo on five. Count DOWN five half steps from G:

G-Gb-F-E-Eb-D
(you count down because the guitar in G will be tuned lower than you are)

and you find you need to be in the key of D. The I-vi-ii-V-I in D will be:

D-Bm-Em-A7-D]]> Guitar Players Discussion NoteBoat https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-99695 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-99690 Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:02:54 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion art&lutherie https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-99690 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-99677 Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:14:57 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion DemoEtc https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-99677 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-99661 Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:49:39 +0000
On the other hand, you can put a capo anywhere and make it work.

Let's say a song is in G. One guitar is playing open chords in G, and the other guitar is going to use a capo... the second guitar could do any of these:

Capo at 2 and play the progression in F
Capo at 3 and play the progression in E
Capo at 5 and play the progression in D
Capo at 7 and play the progression in C

When you use a capo, you have to play different chord fingerings to stay in key. Taking that 5th fret capo as an example, you're playing a D chord... but 5 frets higher. Counting those steps you get:

open - D
1st - Eb
2nd - E
3rd - F
4th - F#/Gb
5th - G

So when you play a C chord, capo at 5, and the other guitar is playing an open G... you're both playing the same chord. Because of the capo, you're playing different notes on the same strings - his 4th string is D, yours is G; his 3rd string is G, yours is D; his 2nd string note is B, yours is G, etc. You both end up playing a G chord (G-B-D), but in different registers

You can do the same thing with altered tunings, but you still won't have the same fingering. If he's in G, and your guitar is a whole step down, you'll need to be playing in A to match.]]> Guitar Players Discussion NoteBoat https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/playing-with-someone/#post-99661