https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:01:07 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98483 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:21:18 +0000 :) That's total BS. I started messing with alternate tunings about six months into my learning process. (I like to play the blues and use Open E and Dropped D quite a bit for that (among others) and there's no way you can do a Joni Mitchell tune without learning alternate tunings. Seems like every one of her tunes is in a different "Joni" tuning. You can get some amazing things going with alternate tunings.

Don't EVER let someone tell you that you're not ready for something. If you have an interest in it, you may not be the best at the beginning, but you're ready.

That's my two cents!]]> Guitar Players Discussion Elecktrablue https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98483 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98424 Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:05:12 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion gene https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98424 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98360 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:41:41 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion spacedog03 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98360 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98264 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:31:06 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion hairballxavier https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98264 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98263 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:13:09 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion yoyo286 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98263 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98262 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:02:33 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion yoyo286 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98262 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98233 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:34:32 +0000
I put my guitar into drop D 8 months into starting and came up with a song in 10 minutes. Alternate tunings are there for those who feel comfortable in using them.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Metaellihead https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/paged/2/#post-98233 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/#post-98231 Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:55:44 +0000
1) the guitar comes from one culture. Other cultures play music differently and sometimes it's easier to play ethnic music in another tunings. Some even use a different system of measuring music, making alternate tunings necessary.

2) Jimmy Page uses alternate tunings a lot

3) Some artists, especially heavy metal bands, are notorious for not tuning their instruments, and to replicate their sound often requires some strings to be lowered whole, half, and/or quarter steps.

Of course, those of us who can't tune by ear have a real hard time tuning alternately. But, hopefully, that will be ammended with time, practice, and patience.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Rush2112 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/#post-98231 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/#post-98208 Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:20:05 +0000
I kind of agree with you. I have the same type of goals/attitude and I don't see the value FOR ME anyway to spend time with alternate tunings when I have so much to learn yet with standard tunings. I have tried some and play a few songs in alternate tunings, but don't see the need or have the time for them yet.

I also agree with Note that in theory it shouldn't be any harder than anything else other than it's just one more thing to deal with.

But with that said no matter what level your at, you should experiment with everything and anything you want to. I don't reallyt believe there is a correct order of what to learn although I do believe in learning the basics first. After that go whereever you want to.]]> Guitar Players Discussion cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/#post-98208 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/#post-98186 Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:40:47 +0000
First, I want to emphasise that I'm commenting from my point of view and that I find no fault what-so-ever with people who find a different path. The following comments are for me alone.

I have yet to master standard tuning. I have the goal of being able to sight read anything in any position, knowing at least 12 voicings for every chord (accept those that legitimately don't have that many playable voicings, of course), and being able to play in any mode on any string in any position and know what notes I'm playing. I don't want to just be playing a within a pattern, I want to know "oh, I'm in G#-Lydian, and I'm playing an F# on this fret and that's a 2nd, which is exactly what I want 'cause the harmony here is a G#major add9." Add in picking techniques, and a host of other things I'm working on and it's quite a bit.

On top of that I'm working on theory and composing.

I don't care to play around with alternate tunings because my goal is to master the instrument, and in my view, alternate tunings are a minor sideline of guitar knowledge. It's something I will someday play with but I have so much else to work on that I just don't see where it can fit into my practice schedule.

I also don't personally see the return of investment on alternate tunings. The music I most like to play doesn't rely on alternate tunings, and the knowledge I'd gain from playing with them doesn't seem to me to be very transferable to other areas.

So for me, alternate tunings are something I don't see the value in. Where I an instructor and had significant knowledge of alternate tunings, I'd still encourage my students away from that arena until they had mastered quite a bit of other detail that to me is far more important to being a well-rounded musician. I wouldn't tell them not to play with whatever they wanted to play with, but I'd not be putting that material into their lessons until they mastered more important things.]]> Guitar Players Discussion kingpatzer https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/rant-on-the-closed-minded/#post-98186