https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 20:58:50 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/paged/2/#post-252576 Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:32:39 +0000 http://www.guitar.co.nz/downloads.php3 I downloaded the PDF file and then just print them off as I need them. There's also a weekly sheet with more room for free form entry. The site is that of Kevin Dowling who wrote a good book on practicing called The Secrets of Successful Practising for Guitarists.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Hyperborea https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/paged/2/#post-252576 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/paged/2/#post-252539 Fri, 06 Jul 2007 01:37:11 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion mynar7 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/paged/2/#post-252539 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/paged/2/#post-251991 Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:30:23 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Anonymous https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/paged/2/#post-251991 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251646 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:53:55 +0000
Honestly I think you are thinking about it too much.

As for modes and such...don't worry about them. Work on the basics and come back here asking about modes in a couple of months (or more) when you actually understand intervals and triads and such. Trying to learn it now is jumping in the deep end when you can't swim at all and it is going to do you a lot more harm then good.

I think that's all I am going to say in here. You seem dedicated, so I hope you enjoy yourself and stick to your guns. I promise you will see results soon. Just go slow and above all else ENJOY YOURSELF.

Anyone else that wants to weigh in feel free.]]> Guitar Players Discussion ab0msnwman https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251646 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251641 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 04:04:38 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Anonymous https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251641 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251557 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:57:10 +0000
Firstly, chromatics.

Then, Plunk a note in every possible spot on the guitar, switching notes each session

Next, Pick an interval, and find it's relation among all strings, within one octave I guess. So, do you need to worry about hitting that interval once you pass the octave? I guess this would be like (if you were working on 2nds) hitting the 9th in a chord? Basing it on those links you provided, those are all within the octave of the root. I guess for the purpose of ear training in relation to guitar, you would want to hit notes that are convenient? Or is it still even a minor second? IE, if you hit 6th string 5th fret to 6th fret, is 6th string 5th fret to 4th string 8th fret still a minor second?

After this I run a scale or two. Maybe I'll do Majors or Pentatonic or Minors. Maybe Modes? Any thoughts on a good way to run some scales?

Now I do some sight-reading. (The goal here is really so I can learn the fretboard super well and also so I can buy a music book and play it. I hate tab, it's easy but it also doesn't seem to take you as far.)

Loop a progression and try a scale against it. Oh, quick question here, how do you use modes in terms of chord progressions? Is like, C Ionian, D Dorian, E Phyrgian, etc all part of the key of C? So if I play a progression in C and I focus on Dm, would I play D Dorian against it? Or would you really be playing a progression out of the Key of D Dorian? Hehe, would that be like:

I ii iii IV V vi vii

Dm Em F G Am Bdim C

Then I could work on some songs from bands I like.

Or just play some stuff I already know.


Any thoughts on that? Also, if you have every interval down cold on your guitar, is that how some musicians can hear a piece and play it by ear? Also what do you do once you know intervals?]]> Guitar Players Discussion mynar7 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251557 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251545 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:15:09 +0000
Maybe you want a lot more out of guitar than me - I'm quite happy playing rhythm, slide and a little lead. A restrictive, regimented practise regime would take ALL the fun out of playing guitar for me - and that's why I picked one up all those years ago, to have fun.

What you get out of the guitar depends what you put into it - and I'm happy enough with what comes out of mine. That's just my particular take on the subject - sounds like you're putting a lot into it, I hope you get a lot out. But don't ever let it get to the stage where you think, "Oh no - got to practise!" Playing ANYTHING on the guitar counts as practise, to me.

:D :D :D

Vic]]> Guitar Players Discussion Vic Lewis VL https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251545 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251543 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:00:04 +0000 also, like he said, ear training is huge. being able to copy what you hear will expand your horizons a ton. Not quite, methinks. Almost, but not quite. Play a simple chord sequence - C-Am-F-G for example, then play the same sequence using 7ths - Cmaj7- Am7- Fmaj7-G7 and then try is using 9ths, 11ths and 13ths. You'll be amazed at what you learn about sounds and hanging them all together from doing so. i can't tell at all the difference between what you said and what i said.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Anonymous https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251543 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251448 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 09:01:01 +0000
Chromatics with metronome for warm-up (Everyday)

Okay good idea.


Major Scale with Metronome (Now would I vary this by staying in a Key for like a week and going through a mode a day? Basically playing Root to root. Or should I just stick with major and switch Keys each day?)
(Also, should I say each note while I play these?)

Also a good idea. Just run through the different patterns of each of them. And sure you can say the notes as you play them, but if you just pick one note a day and focus on that you'll learn them quick enough anyway.

????--Intervals (No clue as to how to practice these. 2nds one day, 3rds, the next or pick a note and do each interval like C and then do a Minor 2nd, Maj2nd, Min 3rd, Maj 3rd, Dim 4th, Dim 5th, etc?)
????--I guess after I master intervals I would tackle Major chords, then Minor, then 7ths, 9ths, etc

Yeah I didn't really make that very clear. Basically what you need to do is just memorize all the intervals on the guitar. Here is a link to a diagram with all the intervals on it.
http://www.flupe.com/lessons/freeLessons/01_foundationLessons/L07_Intervals_2/images/int1.bmp
http://www.flupe.com/lessons/freeLessons/01_foundationLessons/L07_Intervals_2/images/int2.bmp
http://www.flupe.com/lessons/freeLessons/01_foundationLessons/L07_Intervals_2/images/int3.bmp

So yeah what you said is basically right though, take an interval a day and just learn it. Say perfect fifth one day, minor second the next etc, learn it all over the neck.

Now how is that helpful? For one this is the most basic ear training you can do. If you want to actually hear the difference between major and minor tones intervals are the best place to start. Second, memorizing the intervals is going to help you learn the fretboard FAST. Third, eventually you will start to see how these intervals work to form triads and eventually bigger chords. Soon you will even see the intervals in the major scale patterns you have been practicing. Basically, learning the intervals is like learning about the cells in the body of every other piece of music (if that makes ANY sense). They are the basis for everything and it may seem tedious to memorize them, but believe me it's worth it. Just TAKE YOUR TIME it will take a while (maybe months or more) for them to click really in there, so don't worry, just go at your own pace!


Then Pick a note and find everywhere I can play it on the fretboard and say it while I pick it. (Maybe do this for 5 minutes. Next day go through previous note once and pick a new note)

Cool, I would do it maybe like first though after you warm up. It's boring, but you'll really need to only do this for a couple weeks and memorizing the intervals will also help you out.

Then Sight reading to further fretboard knowledge and well, sight-reading abilities.

Awesome, I wish I could sight read.

Make a chord progression in today's key and loop it. Then use an appropriate scale over it to improvise.
Cool, that sounds like fun. Remember you can also rip progressions from songs you like and try to hear what they are and understand why they work.

Now I guess I move on to try and learn a song by ear. However, the nursery rhyme thing doesn't seem to work for me, I don't really know any well enough. Do you look em up online and listen to them while you pick em out?
guys!
Screw that. Just listen to some rock music by bands you like, take on simple songs and just figure em out by ear. Or sing out and interval and then try to play it.

After that I guess noodling is all that's left?

Yeah, or playing along to songs maybe. Remember to keep it fun, but focused.

So I guess learning too much at one time can really diminish the value of the material.
OH GOD YES. TAKE IT SLOW PLEASE. IT WILL TAKE A LIFETIME, THERE IS NO RUSH.

And remember to always have fun! Theory can get dry, so remember to always set aside for just playing your instrument. And don't think that you are obligated to stick to a schedule or whatever, don't want it to become a chore.

Is that a little clearer? I hope I explained intervals better....


]]> Guitar Players Discussion ab0msnwman https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251448 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251411 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:50:22 +0000
Chromatics with metronome for warm-up (Everyday)
Major Scale with Metronome (Now would I vary this by staying in a Key for like a week and going through a mode a day? Basically playing Root to root. Or should I just stick with major and switch Keys each day?)
(Also, should I say each note while I play these?)

????--Intervals (No clue as to how to practice these. 2nds one day, 3rds, the next or pick a note and do each interval like C and then do a Minor 2nd, Maj2nd, Min 3rd, Maj 3rd, Dim 4th, Dim 5th, etc?)
????--I guess after I master intervals I would tackle Major chords, then Minor, then 7ths, 9ths, etc

Then Pick a note and find everywhere I can play it on the fretboard and say it while I pick it. (Maybe do this for 5 minutes. Next day go through previous note once and pick a new note)

Then Sight reading to further fretboard knowledge and well, sight-reading abilities.

Make a chord progression in today's key and loop it. Then use an appropriate scale over it to improvise.

Now I guess I move on to try and learn a song by ear. However, the nursery rhyme thing doesn't seem to work for me, I don't really know any well enough. Do you look em up online and listen to them while you pick em out?

After that I guess noodling is all that's left?

So I guess learning too much at one time can really diminish the value of the material. IE, trying to learn the whole fretboard at once, learnign every scale and mode at once, etc. So One key, one scale/mode, one note, one chord to learn all over the neck a day. But as for this interval thing, it really confuses me. First of all, how is this more beneficial than skipping to building chords, and second, how the hell do you work this into a practice routine? Do you pick a note and do a specific interval? Do you just learn all the ways you can make that interval between strings? I guess the question is, what am I trying to learn and how will I apply it, and with that information I can formulate a practice method that will teach it to me. Also, ear training, any other ideas on this? Or should I just do my chord progression and scalar practice and hope I pick it up? Sometimes when I hear a solo and an artist does a certain bend, I can recognize it immediately. But I wouldn't know it unless it was a bend I did a thousand times while improvising. So is time really the only player?

Thoughts are appreciated,
Lee

PS- I'm counting on you guys!]]> Guitar Players Discussion mynar7 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/the-mother-of-all-practice-questions/#post-251411