https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 09:24:44 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/paged/2/#post-71535 Mon, 04 Oct 2004 02:18:47 +0000
Most of the fun is just in experimenting.

Just a thought

Joe]]> Guitar Players Discussion forrok_star https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/paged/2/#post-71535 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/paged/2/#post-71532 Mon, 04 Oct 2004 01:46:27 +0000
Gibson Les Paul custom into a squire ten watt=terrible sound


squire strat into a JCM800=awsome sound

I'd say 90% of why people like a certain guitar or another is the way they FEEL, not sound. Amps provide sound, the guitar is just a tool for the thouughts to flow. I agree completely, I have a cheap guitar but I think it sounds amazing to my ears when played through a good amp.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Steve-0 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/paged/2/#post-71532 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/paged/2/#post-71348 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 20:01:17 +0000
Gibson Les Paul custom into a squire ten watt=terrible sound


squire strat into a JCM800=awsome sound

I'd say 90% of why people like a certain guitar or another is the way they FEEL, not sound. Amps provide sound, the guitar is just a tool for the thouughts to flow.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Kyle https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/paged/2/#post-71348 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/paged/2/#post-71202 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:05:31 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion TaylorR https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/paged/2/#post-71202 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71126 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:24:07 +0000
Peavey Bandit 112
Randall RG 75
Zoom Fire 30
Fender FM65r
Behringer GMX212
Line6 Spider II (I HATE them, others love them)
Behringer V-ampire (same here)

Some techno-talk:

Pre-amp: the first stage in amplifying the signal coming from your guitar. In all the amps mentioned above the pre-amp is where you shape your sound. All those treble, bass, mid, gain etc knobs influence the pre-amp stage.

However, when the signal leaves the pre-amp, it should sound grand but noone can hear it yet. That's why we need a poweramp. A transistor amp simply makes the sound from the pre-amp louder. A tube poweramp actually changes the sound, depending on the level of PA tube saturation. Note that the Vox actually does have tube saturation, but that's an entirely different story.

Now we need a speaker, since we still don't hear anything. If you have a pre-amp, power-amp and speaker(s) in one box, we call it a combo. You plug your guitar in, and sound comes out of it. A stack consist of a seperate pre/poweramp (these two can be in seperate units or in one unit), and seperate speaker cabinets. Remember those huge marshall towers? That are stacks. Use two 4x12" cabs and you have a stack. Use one cab and you have a half-stack. Since the pre/poweramp are on top of the cabinets, we call those head. So cabinets+head=stack.

With your budget, go for a combo.]]> Guitar Players Discussion Ignar Hillström https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71126 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71124 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:02:04 +0000
Thanks again
NYN

PS. For future reference, I have found an LP100 for £200 on http://www.regentguitars.co.uk/acatalog/Les_Paul_Collection.html
This is the cheapest i've found so far, if anyone see's one for less, please give me a shout. I know its not the best idea to buy guitars without trying them, but I'm not really in a great spot for music shops unfortuantly.]]> Guitar Players Discussion NotYetNirvana https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71124 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71123 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:57:21 +0000
Thanks,
NYN]]> Guitar Players Discussion NotYetNirvana https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71123 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71113 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:20:48 +0000 Guitar Players Discussion Ignar Hillström https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71113 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71102 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:17:16 +0000
You are probably getting to the stage where you will want to start playing with others. You may meet some people and decide to start a band. You are going to need a good amp for that. Your Squier will sound much better than you think through a good amp. But the best guitar will not sound very good through a cheap amp.

By the way, you CAN get humbuckers the size of single coils. Got them on my Strat right now.

How much do you have to spend??]]> Guitar Players Discussion Wes Inman https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71102 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71093 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:19:24 +0000
Bad guitar + better amp = better sound... you sure won't get worse sound

Better guitar + bad amp = marginally better sound. Depending on what it is with the amp that's limiting your tone, you might not even be able to hear a difference.

But there's one big qualifier - you eventually want to move from a Strat copy to a Les Paul copy. You've probably got single coils now, and the change to humbuckers, plus the added sustain that comes from the weight of the LP style will give you a radically different sound. So, if you're unhappy with the sustain, or with hum that you've narrowed down to the pickups, swap out the axe. Otherwise, do the amp.]]> Guitar Players Discussion NoteBoat https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/what-to-upgrade-first/#post-71093