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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks again everyone!I&#039;ve got some stuff to work on this weekend.  :)Jason]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks again everyone!<br><br>I've got some stuff to work on this weekend.  :)<br><br>Jason]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Guys, thanks for the input!I could certainly see where progression jams could get old quick.  I think he just mentioned that so we&#039;d have a starting point next week.  Plus, it might give us ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Guys, thanks for the input!<br><br>I could certainly see where progression jams could get old quick.  I think he just mentioned that so we'd have a starting point next week.  Plus, it might give us a stepping stone to a new song of our own.<br><br>He mainly plays high gain, drop-d "chugga-chugga" stuff, while I lean more towards bluesy, classic rock cleans and such.  Now, this isn't really a bad thing as I hope we'll both learn a bit from each other and maybe find a comfortable middle ground (I'm not opposed to creating some heavy tunes).  So it could be interesting.<br><br>But speaking of covers.  Anyone have any suggestions on something with a simple rhythm part (for me) with a good lead part for him?  Maybe even an acoustic rhythm with electric lead?<br><br>Anyway, I most certainly agree that one of the best parts of learning an instrument is playing with other musicians.  It really is what it's all about, IMO.  I just let me insecurities and lack of skill keep me from doing it more often.  :(  I'll get over it eventually though.<br><br>Jason<br>a terrifc song to jam on is Watchtower. good rythm, not a progreesion, and lots of leads. you could trade off right in the song too.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 02:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[jason,        thats awsome bro, thats how bands get started, keep it up, you can learn from anybodycan&#039;t wait to hear you say, I&#039;M IN A BAND  :D  :D  :D]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[jason,<br><br>        thats awsome bro, thats how bands get started, keep it up, you can learn from anybody<br>can't wait to hear you say, I'M IN A BAND  :D  :D  :D]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[He does use an overhead projector to put the lyris and music up on the wall so everyone can see while they play and that helps me with some of the songs, Neat idea! I&#039;m going to check eBay f...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[He does use an overhead projector to put the lyris and music up on the wall so everyone can see while they play and that helps me with some of the songs, Neat idea! I'm going to check eBay for a good used "opaque" projector. (Versus the kind that needs transparencies.)<br>That's also a way around having to squint at sheet music or tab sheets. (Even Clapton is wearing bifocals now.) And the cost of the projector can be made up by the savings on photocopies and music stands.  :wink:]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[JasonThen start with his songs that are already written. Get him to show you the chords and write it down yourself. Ask for a copy of the CD. Then during the week practice to the CD. At prac...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Jason<br><br>Then start with his songs that are already written. Get him to show you the chords and write it down yourself. Ask for a copy of the CD. Then during the week practice to the CD. At practice show him what you've got and discuss it. He will probably like most of it. He may ask you to play something a little different at one place or another. That's fine. See, you have a song now, you are just polishing it. That is normal. All of our songs evolve. They start out real basic. Then the drummer gets an idea of some cool run he wants to insert. The bass player figures outs some runs. The other guitar finds that it's good to play distorted chords over one section, maybe clean arpeggios over another part of the song. So, the songs always evolve. <br><br>But start with songs. He has the songs so start there.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-players-discussion/">Guitar Players Discussion</category>                        <dc:creator>Wes Inman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[JasonIf he is into heavy &quot;chug&quot; then make him play rhythm. You play the bluesy lead guitar over it.This is what a lot of Kid Rock songs sound like. That distorted chug is really only good fo...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Jason<br><br>If he is into heavy "chug" then make him play rhythm. You play the bluesy lead guitar over it.<br>This is what a lot of Kid Rock songs sound like. That distorted chug is really only good for rhythm. It takes less gain with lots of midrange to hear a good lead. <br><br>We have many original songs in our band (about 15). But the writer writes the whole thing out and then shows the others. We don't just make it up on the spot. That doesn't work very well at all. Write an original song from beginning to end. Show him the progression. Then figure out his parts. The song will evolve over time. You have to try different things until you get something that sounds very good.

Hey, now that's an idea.  Not sure how well I'd do, but I could always learn a few more AC/DC progressions, change'em around, and try playing them over his "chug".  A starting point anyway.<br><br>Thanks for the tips on writing too.  Makes sense and I think I'm going to put the few parts of songs I've got now down on paper this weekend.  Well, it'll actually go into GuitarPro.  :)<br><br>Jason]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Tonight I am going over some guy that I work with house to jam some guys, but he has been playing acoustic for years and likes a certain type of acoustic rock which for the most part doesn&#039;t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Tonight I am going over some guy that I work with house to jam some guys, but he has been playing acoustic for years and likes a certain type of acoustic rock which for the most part doesn't float my boat and I don't know how to play most of the songs. He does use an overhead projector to put the lyris and music up on the wall so everyone can see while they play and that helps me with some of the songs, the rest I just try and add some fills here and there and an occaisional improved solo, most of which don't sound that good, but I figure even though I don't kno wmany of the songs it can't hurt to play with others.

cnev, sounds like we are in very similar situations.  Post back in here tomorrow and let us know how the jam session went.<br><br>He and I both like the same types of music, except I don't really want to play that type of music.  I'd much rather play more clean.  Think AC/DC.  That's about as distorted as I like to go (even then rarely).<br><br>wes, I do have several parts of songs I've come up with.  He has a ton that I listened to a bit last night.  He even has a CD that's he's finishing up.  He doesn't write any of the chords down though.  Like I said, he's a looper.<br><br>I still think he and I can find a middle ground.  I'll let you guys know how next weeks session goes.  I'm already looking forward to it.<br><br>Jason]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[JasonIf he is into heavy &quot;chug&quot; then make him play rhythm. You play the bluesy lead guitar over it.This is what a lot of Kid Rock songs sound like. That distorted chug is really only good fo...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Jason<br><br>If he is into heavy "chug" then make him play rhythm. You play the bluesy lead guitar over it.<br>This is what a lot of Kid Rock songs sound like. That distorted chug is really only good for rhythm. It takes less gain with lots of midrange to hear a good lead. <br><br>We have many original songs in our band (about 15). But the writer writes the whole thing out and then shows the others. We don't just make it up on the spot. That doesn't work very well at all. Write an original song from beginning to end. Show him the progression. Then figure out his parts. The song will evolve over time. You have to try different things until you get something that sounds very good.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Guys, thanks for the input!I could certainly see where progression jams could get old quick.  I think he just mentioned that so we&#039;d have a starting point next week.  Plus, it might give us ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Guys, thanks for the input!<br><br>I could certainly see where progression jams could get old quick.  I think he just mentioned that so we'd have a starting point next week.  Plus, it might give us a stepping stone to a new song of our own.<br><br>He mainly plays high gain, drop-d "chugga-chugga" stuff, while I lean more towards bluesy, classic rock cleans and such.  Now, this isn't really a bad thing as I hope we'll both learn a bit from each other and maybe find a comfortable middle ground (I'm not opposed to creating some heavy tunes).  So it could be interesting.<br><br>But speaking of covers.  Anyone have any suggestions on something with a simple rhythm part (for me) with a good lead part for him?  Maybe even an acoustic rhythm with electric lead?<br><br>Anyway, I most certainly agree that one of the best parts of learning an instrument is playing with other musicians.  It really is what it's all about, IMO.  I just let me insecurities and lack of skill keep me from doing it more often.  :(  I'll get over it eventually though.<br><br>Jason]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: When Jamming With Others</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Writing your own music is great, but it takes lots of time. If either of you has a few songs already written out, that is ok, just write down the chord progression for the other player and s...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Writing your own music is great, but it takes lots of time. If either of you has a few songs already written out, that is ok, just write down the chord progression for the other player and start working on parts for the 2nd player. But if you are both starting from scratch, that is much more difficult. You probably will not enjoy a jam like that. Even professional groups, usually one person will record the basic progression and vocals, write it all out and bring it to the other players. This works well. But starting with nothing usually results in nothing.]]></content:encoded>
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