https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:31:52 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-163131 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 08:34:14 +0000
While I only have about 3-4 years of experience with guitars I would like to someday build my own.

I have done a lot of setup, minor restoration, and a few repairs. to my own guitars and several belonging to friends. so far I have had no problems that have been unfixable. Which leads me to this project. I know I've never done anything like it before, but theirs a first time for everything.

I have a lot of experince with wood work, although none specificly with musical instruments. And between my dad, grampa, and uncle my family has a fairly large woodshop which they don't mind me using (something I am very greatfull for :D )
Ideally I would like to make as many of the parts as I can. In theory the only things I shoulld have to buy would be the bridge, tuners, and nut... in theory.

sorry if it sounds a little preachy, i'm just trying to clarify why I'm trying this. :)

As always thanks for the feedback, it has been very helpfull, especially about the planetery tuners.

please keep the good advice coming. :D

ps I already have a third guitar unk, it's a korean made hamer diablo with a foyd rose style bridge. wouldn't mind having a fourth, or fifth... I just can't afford it... yet :)]]> Guitar Repair and Maintenance afterblast https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-163131 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-163096 Sat, 04 Mar 2006 06:45:24 +0000
do yourself a favor. read all these replies, 'cause there's some really interesting ideas in there. then go back and read Doug C's reply 'cause it's the best advice so far.

you'll end up putting at least as much if not more money into converting your squier into a 12. buy a 12 if that's what you want. then you'll have 3 guitars. what? you only want 2 guitars? fine, sell the squire and you'll have either have less total cash into the deal for the new 12, or you can spend even more on the 12.

don't get me wrong, if you've got a jones for taking on an unusual project, this could be just the thing. but since you've never done anything like this before, it might be a wild ride.

if you're just trying to get a 12 on the cheap, you'll be happier if you start with one.



unk]]> Guitar Repair and Maintenance unklmickey https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-163096 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-163001 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:39:41 +0000
Anyhow, the idea of grinding the knobs - that might take a bit of work and come out less than what you expect unless you have some sort of machine shop set up.

I actually thought of doing something like this, but it would've been with a Warmoth 12-string neck and parts like slejhamer suggested.

I also like the idea of a nine string because a lot of times it's the top strings that give the '12-string' sound; the doubled bass strings just make it harder to hold them down. Plus you usually wind up backing the bass response off to focus on the chimey top strings and the effect of the octave basses diminishes.

But I think, yah, Warmoth - the heel is supposed to match Fender's pocket exactly.

And the other, pretty nicely made electric 12s are the DaisyRock's. I saw one up close at GC (righty so I didn't play it), and it looked really nicely done.]]> Guitar Repair and Maintenance DemoEtc https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-163001 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-163000 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 20:38:07 +0000
Anyhow, the idea of grinding the knobs - that might take a bit of work and come out less than what you expect unless you have some sort of machine shop set up.

I actually thought of doing something like this, but it would've been with a Warmoth 12-string neck and parts like slejhamer suggested.

I also like the idea of a nine string because a lot of times it's the top strings that give the '12-string' sound; the doubled bass strings just make it harder to hold them down. Plus you usually wind up backing the bass response off to focus on the chimey top strings and the effect of the octave basses diminishes.

But I think, yah, Warmoth - the heel is supposed to match Fender's pocket exactly.

And the other, pretty nicely made electric 12s are the DaisyRock's. I saw one up close at GC (righty so I didn't play it), and it looked really nicely done.]]> Guitar Repair and Maintenance DemoEtc https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-163000 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162988 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:55:07 +0000 Guitar Repair and Maintenance art&lutherie https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162988 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162925 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 06:47:04 +0000 Guitar Repair and Maintenance U2Bono269 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162925 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162920 Fri, 03 Mar 2006 06:26:37 +0000
the only good Idea that I have for this is to get a left handed set, and try to squeeze them under the normal tuners. which leaves the problem of how to give the nobs turning room. The only Idea that I have there is to get or grind small nobs, or maybe instead of mounting the tuners on the same level with the others I could use a wood spacer. I think that this will give them more room to turn and also increase the angle of the strings over the nut, since the shaft would be lower in relation to the headstock.

Am I missing any serious problems, here? sometimes it's easy to overlook small stuff and I have the vague feeling that I may be doing just that.
Anyway all the feedback is greatly appreciated. :D thanks :D]]> Guitar Repair and Maintenance afterblast https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162920 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162791 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:27:39 +0000
Many points by others are well taken.

Joe]]> Guitar Repair and Maintenance forrok_star https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162791 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162789 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:22:47 +0000 Guitar Repair and Maintenance Nick Torres https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162789 https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162774 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:14:42 +0000
If cost is an issue, you're looking at:
$157 for a basic 12-string neck (Warmoth)
$25 for a basic corian nut (pre-slotted, pre-installed)
$35 for a Gotoh 12-string bridge (plus you may need to get your guitar drilled if it's not already string-through, as 6 strings stop in the bridge and 6 string-through the body)
Add another $6 for string ferrules if you need drilling
$25 to $50 for new tuners]]> Guitar Repair and Maintenance slejhamer https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/6-to-12-project-maybe/#post-162774