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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[...i put the ltd bridge on the BC~Rich and now i seem to beable to get the intonation set on the low e but look at how crazy it looks to the rest of it ...

Well, that&#039;s why we don&#039;t intonat...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[...i put the ltd bridge on the BC~Rich and now i seem to beable to get the intonation set on the low e but look at how crazy it looks to the rest of it ...

Well, that's why we don't intonate strings visually, any more than we'd set EQ visually.  String vibrations don't care what the saddles look like.  :) <br>and crow what is that bridge on in that pic?...it sure would be nice if BC~Rich guitars would adapt a style kinda like that, the screw sticking out on the post bolt is another way intonation can be set on a bridge system like that....two ways to ajust it on that ...thats awesome.....

That's a Leo Quan Badass.  I don't think they are made any more, but I believe Guitar Fetish sells a duplicate.  It's basically an adjustable replacement for the Gibson Les Paul Jr.-style wraparound bridge.  Lots of players don't seem to like them, but I have two &amp; I think they are great.<br><br>Glad to hear you're getting that thing in tune!]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/strange-intonation-issues/paged/2/#post-349338</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[ive done switched the saddles around put them right and did it again ....i put the ltd bridge on the BC~Rich and now i seem to beable to get the intonation set on the low e but look at how c...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[ive done switched the saddles around put them right and did it again ....i put the ltd bridge on the BC~Rich and now i seem to beable to get the intonation set on the low e but look at how crazy it looks to the rest of it ...evreything is set and intoation is just fine on evreything now....im not sure if its the new strings or the bridge though...but after closer examination of the saddles in the BC~Rich bridge they seem to need changing they look bad...i think ima stick witht he bridge from the ltd though i think it gives my guitar a fater look...lol....heres a few pics<br><br><a href="http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/148/l_c761cb89cc654c19a055b83072caf789.jpg"><img src="http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/148/l_c761cb89cc654c19a055b83072caf789.jpg"></a><br><br><a href="http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/134/l_dcfab2c8d74943f39ce8a408067d159f.jpg"><img src="http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/134/l_dcfab2c8d74943f39ce8a408067d159f.jpg"></a><br><br><a href="http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/143/l_3f919f73976d49bc91a595706a382f0f.jpg"><img src="http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/143/l_3f919f73976d49bc91a595706a382f0f.jpg"></a><br>this last pic shows the stock bridge and the ltd bridge wich is the one installed on the guitar in this pic....<br>the difrence in the thinkness of it gave me more ajusment spacing to get what i needed to get it set right....<br>but i still dont understand how the old bridge could have faild i know the saddles look bad and look a little worn out <br>if the low e string sits lower in the saddle would that change intonation....<br><br>thanks a bunch for all your idea's and help its realy appreciated very very much<br><br>and crow what is that bridge on in that pic?...it sure would be nice if BC~Rich guitars would adapt a style kinda like that, the screw sticking out on the post bolt is another way intonation can be set on a bridge system like that....two ways to ajust it on that ...thats awesome.....<br><br>realy guys thanks for all the imput maybe i can be of some help to someone ase i brows more of this forum to expand my knowledge..]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[...so it should look something like this:That&#039;s a Leo Quan Badass Bridge on a &#039;60s Kalamazoo solid body.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[...so it should look something like this:<br><br><a href="http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz199/CrowinCOS/reversesaddle.jpg"><img src="http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz199/CrowinCOS/reversesaddle.jpg"></a><br><br>That's a Leo Quan Badass Bridge on a '60s Kalamazoo solid body.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[so your saying to turn my bridge completly backwards? what about the slots in the saddles for the strings to fite right will this not matter?...

No, just the saddle, and just on the sixth s...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[so your saying to turn my bridge completly backwards? what about the slots in the saddles for the strings to fite right will this not matter?...

No, just the saddle, and just on the sixth string.  Loosen low E string, then back the saddle's adjustment screw all the way out.  Turn the saddle around and reinstall.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Great picture.TR&#039;s analysis of the post-pic situation is good, and I agree.  The thick strings make it harder, but never impossible.Now I see your latest post, with full pic and reference to...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Great picture.<br><br>TR's analysis of the post-pic situation is good, and I agree.  The thick strings make it harder, but never impossible.<br><br>Now I see your latest post, with full pic and reference to TR's instructions.  And you state the strings are 9 - 42's or light. <br><br>I was saying till now, slacken your 6th or E, and adjust the saddle all the way to the back, if you can, if the screw isn't stripped.  If so, push the saddle back as you turn.<br><br>The saddle for that fat E is positioned as I thought, and I say that only because I see so many, that I have to put myself in a 'blindfold' situation based on experience, from the earlier post without a pic.<br><br>In light of your most recent attempt, now if you may have to:  remove that saddle and turn it around, as in the Wikipedia pic that I posted.  It should work for you if you have any threads left to grip and not slip, as you tune that grabber of a string up. 8)<br><br>I edit this in now, with your guitar being String Through Body, and the new pic with same priciples &amp; position will apply.<br><br><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Bridge_string_thru_body.jpg/220px-Bridge_string_thru_body.jpg"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Bridge_string_thru_body.jpg/220px-Bridge_string_thru_body.jpg"></a><br><br>so your saying to turn my bridge completly backwards? what about the slots in the saddles for the strings to fite right will this not matter?...]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[My low E strings typically run .052-.054, and I always have to work harder to get the octaves right.  Pushing on the saddle often makes a difference.  So does reversing the saddle.  In any c...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[My low E strings typically run .052-.054, and I always have to work harder to get the octaves right.  Pushing on the saddle often makes a difference.  So does reversing the saddle.  In any case they usually wind up racked out to what looks like an extreme distance.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Wow!  9&#039;s ... the camera does add pounds.   :lol:   I use 9&#039;s as well.  My son has a B.C Rich Platinum Warlock bass and I did have to move his bridge but only because the strings were not pa...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Wow!  9's ... the camera does add pounds.   :lol:   I use 9's as well.  My son has a B.C Rich Platinum Warlock bass and I did have to move his bridge but only because the strings were not parallel to the neck.  We modded this with chrome skulls for knobs.  I have a B.C. Rich Body Art guitar (40 Lashes) that was made in China and I have no issues go figure.  I don't play it alot but I have always liked B.C. Rich guitars.  Best of luck figuring out your difficulty.  Looks like you got a really nice rig going there.   :wink:]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/strange-intonation-issues/#post-349329</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Great picture.TR&#039;s analysis of the post-pic situation is good, and I agree.  The thick strings make it harder, but never impossible.Now I see your latest post, with full pic and reference to...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Great picture.<br><br>TR's analysis of the post-pic situation is good, and I agree.  The thick strings make it harder, but never impossible.<br><br>Now I see your latest post, with full pic and reference to TR's instructions.  And you state the strings are 9 - 42's or light. <br><br>I was saying till now, slacken your 6th or E, and adjust the saddle all the way to the back, if you can, if the screw isn't stripped.  If so, push the saddle back as you turn.<br><br>The saddle for that fat E is positioned as I thought, and I say that only because I see so many, that I have to put myself in a 'blindfold' situation based on experience, from the earlier post without a pic.<br><br>In light of your most recent attempt, now if you may have to:  remove that saddle and turn it around, as in the Wikipedia pic that I posted.  It should work for you if you have any threads left to grip and not slip, as you tune that grabber of a string up. 8)<br><br>I edit this in now, with your guitar being String Through Body, and the new pic with same priciples &amp; position will apply.<br><br><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Bridge_string_thru_body.jpg/220px-Bridge_string_thru_body.jpg"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Bridge_string_thru_body.jpg/220px-Bridge_string_thru_body.jpg"></a>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Have you tried a different pickup to tune with or changing the volume or tone control.  I have seen the low E on certain guitars &quot;overdrive&quot; the tuner input and make the tuning of that strin...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Have you tried a different pickup to tune with or changing the volume or tone control.  I have seen the low E on certain guitars "overdrive" the tuner input and make the tuning of that string very unreliable.  Have you tried intonating by ear?  Try putting the saddle where it looks like it should be.  You know the way the saddles make two nice little sets of 3 in a slanting pattern?  Put the low E where it looks like it belongs and try the intonation check with your ear.  Harmonic on the string over the 12th fret and the 12th fret fretted.  Not painfully acurate but should be ballpark.<br><br><br><br>OK I see you made another post with pics.  Looks like you only have one pickup and it looks like a powerful one.  You say when all the way in one direction it almost intonates?  Would flipping the saddle help or hurt?  Visually from the picture though it looks to me that if the A string is intonating then you sould be able to get your E to do so.  Hmmm ... Nice guitar by the way!   8)  I'm noticing you look to have very heavy strings on there.  That could be part of the problem too.  String guage affects intonation.<br>yes my boss is tunning things correctly ..i used to use the tunner on my old digitech rp-50 same results with both tunners allthough the digitech tunes things slightly lower then the boss.....
Is the new tuner set to 440 HZ?<br>i have tryed by ear to no avail....the string gauge is light 9-42 dean markly blue steel....best and onley strings i use..i love the sound i get from them....and yep just checked the boss its tunning to 440hz :).....ive played this guitar to long and love it to much to junk it now...lol...i gota get this fixed...ill let you know what chaging the bridge and the strings do<br>here is a full look at my axe the pick up is a dimebag seymore duncan<br><br><a href="http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/119/l_1d38f2c6b20347a7a8a2cfc220f24e86.jpg"><img src="http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/119/l_1d38f2c6b20347a7a8a2cfc220f24e86.jpg"></a>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: strange intonation issues</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Have you tried a different pickup to tune with or changing the volume or tone control.  I have seen the low E on certain guitars &quot;overdrive&quot; the tuner input and make the tuning of that strin...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Have you tried a different pickup to tune with or changing the volume or tone control.  I have seen the low E on certain guitars "overdrive" the tuner input and make the tuning of that string very unreliable.  Have you tried intonating by ear?  Try putting the saddle where it looks like it should be.  You know the way the saddles make two nice little sets of 3 in a slanting pattern?  Put the low E where it looks like it belongs and try the intonation check with your ear.  Harmonic on the string over the 12th fret and the 12th fret fretted.  Not painfully acurate but should be ballpark.<br><br><br><br>OK I see you made another post with pics.  Looks like you only have one pickup and it looks like a powerful one.  You say when all the way in one direction it almost intonates?  Would flipping the saddle help or hurt?  Visually from the picture though it looks to me that if the A string is intonating then you sould be able to get your E to do so.  Hmmm ... Nice guitar by the way!   8)  I'm noticing you look to have very heavy strings on there.  That could be part of the problem too.  String guage affects intonation.<br>yes my boss is tunning things correctly ..i used to use the tunner on my old digitech rp-50 same results with both tunners allthough the digitech tunes things slightly lower then the boss.....
Is the new tuner set to 440 HZ?]]></content:encoded>
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