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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/paged/2/#post-345171</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[That&#039;s good news.  Enjoy for sure, eh? 8)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[That's good news.  Enjoy for sure, eh? 8)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>Blue Jay</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/paged/2/#post-345134</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[well, just finished re wiring my guitar, installed a gfs new crunchy rails bridge humbucker as well. turns out the bridge was grounded(was kinda hidden in the tight spaces from the minimal b...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[well, just finished re wiring my guitar, installed a gfs new crunchy rails bridge humbucker as well. turns out the bridge was grounded(was kinda hidden in the tight spaces from the minimal bc rich routing job), so iv been messing around in my room, trying to figure out were my guitar was picking up noise from, turns out to be EVERYTHING, but i also forgot that i live in a house that was built in the 50s and has bare copper wiring everywere, could that amplify into my guitar/amp? anyways, my guitar sounds clearer, my new pots dont make noise(old ones sounded like they had feedback when dialing), new orange drop cap sounds better then my old half melted mylar cap, and of course it was a fun experience wiring a guitar, i could get use to doing it for living if i could get good enough at it. may make a make a guitar from scratch now :) and thanks to everyone who helped me out. ave.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>ShadeSquamous</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/#post-344858</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I agree, both are important.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I agree, both are important.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>Ricochet</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/#post-344849</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The interference situation has been changing for years, Ric.   switching power supplies and light dimming/control circuits emit primarily electric field interference. and as power transforme...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The interference situation has been changing for years, Ric.   switching power supplies and light dimming/control circuits emit primarily electric field interference. and as power transformers and ballast supplies are disappearing in all but our pricey amplifiers (former), switchers and dimmers continue to proliferate in nearly every electronic device and building. even for fluorescent lighting, the ballast circuits have long been changing over to transformerless, reducing the magnetic interference substantially. yet fluorescent (and neon) <I>tubes</I> continue on and create electric field interference. a lot of it -- esp near end of life. I've heard plenty of humbuckers picking up noise -- not 60 or 120 hertz hum, but buzzing. the humbucker is a good thing, esp as there is no <I>practical</I> magnetic shielding (unless you go in for annealing mu-metal laminates), but let's not ignore one or the other. both electric field and magnet field interferences exist at significant levels, and the high impedance magnetic pups we favor in our instruments need consideration for both. if a player uses a high gain setup both are def going to be important. a well-shielded humbucker is the best all around protected. (too bad some of us don't find it to be the best sounding!)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>gnease</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/#post-344848</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[unless well shielded, even humbuckers are susceptible to electric field interferences such as from older TVs/CRTs, florescent and neon lighting, DC motor brush noise.  that&#039;s the reason many...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[unless well shielded, even humbuckers <I>are</I> susceptible to electric field interferences such as from older TVs/CRTs, florescent and neon lighting, DC motor brush noise.  that's the reason many come standard with metal covers. humbucking only rejects magnetically coupled interference, such as from power supply transformers and AC wiring.
Still, the main interference from most of the above sources is magnetic. CRT TVs and monitors emit AF alternating magnetic fields from their magnetic deflection coils. Fluorescent lights emit alternating magnetic fields from their ballasts. Neon lights have high voltage transformers that emit magnetic fields. Electric shielding's a fine thing and will also help to reduce noise, but it won't make a single coil anywhere near as quiet as a balanced humbucker.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>Ricochet</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/#post-344846</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Your humbuckers are not susceptible to 60 cycle hum and much other interference.

unless well shielded, even humbuckers are susceptible to electric field interferences such as from older TVs...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<br>Your humbuckers are not susceptible to 60 cycle hum and much other interference.

unless well shielded, even humbuckers <I>are</I> susceptible to electric field interferences such as from older TVs/CRTs, florescent and neon lighting, DC motor brush noise.  that's the reason many come standard with metal covers. humbucking only rejects magnetically coupled interference, such as from power supply transformers and AC wiring.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>gnease</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/#post-344829</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[wow, i may just drop the whole sheilding then and just ground the bridge, it will still be a step up from the stock setup(in which the bridge isnt grounded). can still use the second diagram...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[wow, i may just drop the whole sheilding then and just ground the bridge, it will still be a step up from the stock setup(in which the bridge isnt grounded). can still use the second diagram i posted for just grounding the bridge?(jack, tone pot, and bridge all with the same wire)

Sure, do it.  Great!<br><br>Lots of good advice here with precautions.<br><br>Sometimes we get into overkill, but you'll be fine with that. :) <br><br>Your humbuckers are not susceptible to 60 cycle hum and much other interference.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>Blue Jay</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[wow, i may just drop the whole sheilding then and just ground the bridge, it will still be a step up from the stock setup(in which the bridge isnt grounded). can still use the second diagram...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[wow, i may just drop the whole sheilding then and just ground the bridge, it will still be a step up from the stock setup(in which the bridge isnt grounded). can still use the second diagram i posted for just grounding the bridge?(jack, tone pot, and bridge all with the same wire)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>ShadeSquamous</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/#post-344707</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Excellent link Hyperborea, and I agree there can be ground loops on a Strat, or where a shielded pickguard touches a overlapping shield from a cavity, as it should.  I&#039;ve encountered that hu...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Excellent link Hyperborea, and I agree there can be ground loops on a Strat, or where a shielded pickguard touches a overlapping shield from a cavity, as it should.  I've encountered that hum and crackle, and the sensitivity to touch, or a ground loop but luckily, never went so far as to get electrocuted.  Only with amps.  :roll: 

That's the point of separating out the signal and the shield grounds and adding a filter in the connection to the shield ground - to stop any shocks coming from a bad amp or bad electrical wiring.  Your shield ground is ultimately connected to the amp and the building electrical wiring.  If something goes wrong there then all of the grounded shield components could become live - the pots, switches, and even the strings (through the bridge ground).<br>Of course you can't be too careful.  I wasn't thinking of it here, with no pickguard, but perhaps, I dunno, the shielded rear control cover would act like a pickguard and becomes overkill, or excess grounding together with the inter-pot ground wires.  Good point;  theory is a bit of a tricky science here, and no big project is for the feint of heart. <br><br>Good to have another set of eyes and ears around.  8) 

Shielding that guitar wouldn't be much different than shielding a Les Paul or similar.  A shielded rear control cover only blocks interference from a limited direction.  You would want to coat the cavity with shielding paint, copper foil, or even aluminum foil.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>Hyperborea</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: wiring diagram help</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/wiring-diagram-help/#post-344682</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Excellent link Hyperborea, and I agree there can be ground loops on a Strat, or where a shielded pickguard touches a overlapping shield from a cavity, as it should.  I&#039;ve encountered that hu...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Excellent link Hyperborea, and I agree there can be ground loops on a Strat, or where a shielded pickguard touches a overlapping shield from a cavity, as it should.  I've encountered that hum and crackle, and the sensitivity to touch, or a ground loop but luckily, never went so far as to get electrocuted.  Only with amps.  :roll: <br><br>Of course you can't be too careful.  I wasn't thinking of it here, with no pickguard, but perhaps, I dunno, the shielded rear control cover would act like a pickguard and becomes overkill, or excess grounding together with the inter-pot ground wires.  Good point;  theory is a bit of a tricky science here, and no big project is for the feint of heart. <br><br>Good to have another set of eyes and ears around.  8) <br><br><a href="http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/df19dcfe4f71acd848923b41aced4b5a.jpg"><img src="http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/df19dcfe4f71acd848923b41aced4b5a.jpg"></a>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/guitar-repair-and-maintenance/">Guitar Repair and Maintenance</category>                        <dc:creator>Blue Jay</dc:creator>
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