https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 07:13:09 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/paged/2/#post-370386 Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:17:01 +0000
Just a reminder that these are total, unaltered stock patches, or "Rigs", as they call them. No adjustments other than volume. All the standard adjustments could have been made by someone who knows how. For the hard rocking stuff, alas, that's not me.

This thing has so many way to adjust. It's even got some well thought out functionality for speaker break-up that is seperate from distortion, overdrive or gain. It is affected by it, but only one of a few parameters. Volume and Tone knobs being cranked is one thing that will affect it. so are different levels or settings in any of the amp or pedal sims. It's even affected a little bit by total rack output. If you like your tone and speaker breakup, but want higher volume, you need to make those adjust post 11R or do offsetting adjustments from within. Raise the output, but dial back the amp sim's volume, for example, and you remain pretty true to what you had decided on and liked. Like anything with many ways to alter tone, you gotta get a feel for it. I've never been that good at dialing in hard rock settings.

That tone that offended most of who listened to it did have the tone scooped, fwiw. I didn't do it. I'll take TR's method and apply it from beginning to end on a fresh rig. I hate starting with an apple to try to end up with a banana. Give me a black slate.

At any rate, it's all pretty fun. I did a plug-in this weekend in PT-10 and tried it out on that offensive metallica tone. it made one heck of a difference. Astonishing. it was just a stock setting in a 7-band EQ. I've never had any stock setting of anything sound so good. They always sound like crud to me. My only problem with this one was that I have no idea if theheavy rockers would like it or not. I'm sort of running blind on that end. Un trained ear, perhaps.]]> Hear Here rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/paged/2/#post-370386 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/paged/2/#post-370385 Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:05:00 +0000
I had a pm pretty much sharing your opinion on the first bit of distortion. I went back and took a quick look under .................................................................................................................. Everything else is my Squre Tele. There is the problem! Use a Les Paul! :mrgreen: Grab your Les Paul, find a nice hot rodded Marshall model, use your brige pickup with everything on the guitar at 10. Crank the gain on the amp model. Start with the EQ at 5 and tweek from there. This will make the metal!]]> Hear Here TRGuitar https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/paged/2/#post-370385 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/paged/2/#post-370312 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:11:55 +0000
Ramble Alert!
I was watching "That Metal Show" and they had Ace Frehley on. Gilby Clark was the guest guitar player and they asked Ace if the tone sounded familiar. Gilby said he had read that Ace's Marshall settings were everything at 5 so that is what he has always used. I didn't know that and it would not have mattered if I did even though I'm a big fan of Ace. My EQ from bass to mid to treble tends to look like 6 4 7 so close. (Oh yeah, my amps go to 12 :lol: so 1 oclock, 11 oclock and 2 oclock) Of course gain has to be as high as I can get without feedback and or the point where I notice no difference in the sustain yet before the sound starts to get fizzy. Just before that. I need to keep the definition. For my EQ I start at 5 and twist to get the sweet spot on each knob where the harmonics and sustain are optimized.
So ends TR"s clinic on dirty amp settings :lol:]]> Hear Here TRGuitar https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/paged/2/#post-370312 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/paged/2/#post-370302 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:01:59 +0000 Hear Here rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/paged/2/#post-370302 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370301 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:40:48 +0000
The ZZ distortion was better but not great either and none of this has anything to do with your playing.

But it might be me I don't like anything I have either. But what I was afraid of with a unit like this is what it would sound like in a live situation. Alot of times it comes out much better when recording then when pushed through an amp I'd be interested to hear it played through your amp and then recorded.

Roy you have alot of patience for knob fiddling that I don't so it may just be a matter of spending some time with the unit.]]> Hear Here cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370301 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370299 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:33:41 +0000
I had a pm pretty much sharing your opinion on the first bit of distortion. I went back and took a quick look under the hood. Nothing other than some minor EQ adjustments and some Reverb. It's pretty much just a driven amp they're calling "M-2 Lead" , based on a "'85 mesa Boogie Mark II c+" on the website. The amp's three EQ settings would look "V"d if laid out like an EQ with sliders.

I should mention that the guitar used for this one is dropped 1/2 step all the way. It shouldn't matter for this sampling, though. After all, you rarely hear rock stars announce their tuning before each song. Everything else is my Squre Tele.]]> Hear Here rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370299 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370298 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:53:02 +0000 The first two are different rhythm patterns leading off "For Whom The Bell Tolls". It's using an Eleven Rack preset that models a Mesa-Boogie amp.
Not a big fan of the distortion of that one... Granted... it could be my speakers... the reast, is great though...]]> Hear Here s1120 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370298 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370297 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:49:43 +0000
Alrighty, the 6 bits of guitar going on here are listed below. I've not played a ton of the harder stuff, but I am curious to know how these patches sound to you. I know the playing sucks. I like the music, but I just don't play enough of it to be good yet.
Here's the link:
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11206084

The first two are different rhythm patterns leading off "For Whom The Bell Tolls". It's using an Eleven Rack preset that models a Mesa-Boogie amp.

Next comes a bit of really poorly done 'Trower's "Bridge of Sighs". My apologies to him, his family and anyone with good taste in properly performed guitar music. The was an Eleven Rack Rig using a Marshall Plexi.

Next up is a bit of a trilogy. Some ZZ-Top doing up JJLC, "La Grange" and "Waiting on the Bus". My apoligies to the entire State of Texas and their favorite bearded & rockin' sons. An Eleven Rack rig showing off it's interpretation of a 1965 Fender Super reverb.]]> Hear Here rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370297 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370296 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:32:16 +0000
I didn't do this one, but probably only because it got me in a bit of a mood for some Robin Trower stylings. A bit of which I played to the harder sampling coming this afternoon, along with some other harder selections. Funny Im reading this and my Ipod is playing About to Begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]> Hear Here s1120 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370296 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370295 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:06:04 +0000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mdBw3SG5io]]> Hear Here cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/a-long-sample-from-my-new-eleven-rack/#post-370295