https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Fri, 05 Jun 2026 01:11:08 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-339014 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:24:25 +0000 Before, I only listened to the first minute.
This time I listened to the whole thing . . .
and now . . . I'm so mellowed out, I'm going to take a nap.
Good sedative indeed.]]> Hear Here KR2 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-339014 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-339011 Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:20:53 +0000 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_16lMWK48I

I remixed it and reposted it here - I think the guitar was way too loud in the mix, could barely here the backing track.]]> Hear Here Taso https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-339011 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338956 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:49:10 +0000
Maybe with slow songs like I just posted it sounds nicer to play behind the beat, but in fast rock'nroll type blueses its better to play ahead/on the beat? I don't listen to blues enough to know.
To me, blues is about someone who has lost someone or something that meant a lot to him/her . . .
to the point where they've lost all motivation for life . . . even lost the will to live . . .
thus the expression "lay down and die" often associated with the lyrics.
So when you're jumping out ahead of the beat, it's sounds like your all cranked up ready to roll . . .
which defeats the whole feeling . . . of the 'blues' in the song.
To me, listening to a good blues song has the same effect as taking a good sedative.
Does that help? :mrgreen: i feel like there are different kinds of blues music - blues rock, like much of the Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton album, Cream type stuff, Blue Oyster Cult, etcetc. And then there's the blues you describe.

Basically this: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=17686748 , which has the type of lyrics you describe but the music is very happy-going (Clapton is playing ahead of the beat, I think)

And then the type of blues you describe, http://www.esnips.com//doc/b36263fe-c45d-4682-ad07-2489e57920d4/Eric-Clapton---Five-Long-Years.flv (actually, i think he plays ahead of the beat quite a bit here too?)]]> Hear Here Taso https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338956 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338954 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:34:46 +0000
Enjoyed listening to it!]]> Hear Here JoeHempel https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338954 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338951 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:19:29 +0000
Maybe with slow songs like I just posted it sounds nicer to play behind the beat, but in fast rock'nroll type blueses its better to play ahead/on the beat? I don't listen to blues enough to know.
To me, blues is about someone who has lost someone or something that meant a lot to him/her . . .
to the point where they've lost all motivation for life . . . even lost the will to live . . .
thus the expression "lay down and die" often associated with the lyrics.
So when you're jumping out ahead of the beat, it's sounds like your all cranked up ready to roll . . .
which defeats the whole feeling . . . of the 'blues' in the song.
To me, listening to a good blues song has the same effect as taking a good sedative.
Does that help? :mrgreen:]]> Hear Here KR2 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338951 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338949 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:06:24 +0000
Maybe with slow songs like I just posted it sounds nicer to play behind the beat, but in fast rock'nroll type blueses its better to play ahead/on the beat?]]> Hear Here Taso https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338949 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338948 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:04:15 +0000
Basically, as I understand it, lets say we're doing a blues in G.

Right now you're saying I'm playing on the beat, so when the one chord comes, I'm playing a phrase to go with that one chord right when it starts.

Playing behind the beat would be more like, the one chord comes, and THEN I play the phrase.

So it's not playing out of time, (I think "behind the beat" is a bit of a misnomer, to be honest, more like, behind the chord change, I think is a better way to phrase it, assuming I understand correctly), you're still in time, just different.]]> Hear Here Taso https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338948 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338946 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:57:43 +0000 I can't explain it much more than I already have.
And I'm not expert . . . just the opposite. I'm just trying to explain what I hear.

I can use an analogy.
When ballroom dancing, like a waltz, one person leads . . . the other follows.
Now when you watch them you, you might not see it . . . because they are both moving together.
I imagine playing with the rhythm is like that. It's like dancing with a partner.
Except you have to let the rhythm lead . . . you wait for it and react to it . . . you dance around (and with) the rhythm.
You aren't playing a full beat behind . . . but you are allowing the rhythm to hit on its beat before you do.
And like dancing, at the same time you are moving together . . . or it appears that way . . . strange huh?

Give David Hodges a PM and ask him to elaborate.
He's very good at explaining things . . . and I'm not sure I'm even right.]]> Hear Here KR2 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338946 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338943 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:31:45 +0000
Dan - thanks.


Dogbite - lol. I have no idea, I knew it was something I did, I didn't realize how much I did it though, pretty funny. I think its because, as im improvising, I don't really know where the next note will be, so my hand is deciding where to go, either around the 3rd fret, or the 6th, or the 15th, etc. Maybe that's why, I can't be sure.]]> Hear Here Taso https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338943 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338929 Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:55:01 +0000 one thing I don't understand. many players do it and so do you.
what's with the quick hand movement up or down the neck after a phrase?
I understand the effect when a note is played with that movement, but when there is no note
I always find that movement odd or purposeless.]]> Hear Here dogbite https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/blues-improv-in-g-youtube/#post-338929