https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 14:17:27 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335115 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:49:56 +0000 Hear Here Dan T. https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335115 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335103 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:17:34 +0000
So far I've learned:
#1: Timing is essential. Begin and end phrases in proper timing with the song. Also, fills need to start and stop (or fade out) accordingly. (learned that one doing "Never Been To Spain" later on)
#2: You can switch keys. (went from Em to Am pent scale in this recording)
#3: Less is more.....especially at this stage.
#4: Less also gives you time to think about and do some bends, slides and vibrato.
#5: Practicing your scales helps out a lot. Now I'm inspired to expand.
#6: Starting and Stopping points (notes) are really important in phrasing.
#7: Play to the song, not the scale you're in.

All stuff that's been said before. Just being able to do it finally really connects things togther for me. I did comfortably Numb earlier this week as the first real experiment. Well, 1/2 the song. Up until the 2nd verse. Did the solo in Bm and REALLY kept it simple. Going back and listening to it now, I can hear the things that really worked. All simple stuff, and all music. (Oh, and I did a soft voiced vocal for it. That's actually a 3 track recording :) )

"Never Been To Spain" got good once I started getting into the groove of the song instead of mindless up & downs on the scales.]]> Hear Here rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335103 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335088 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:41:28 +0000 I have found it improves my playing.

the tone is good. the timing is whack, but that's just a volume/hearing issue.
you are spot on at times so I believe you have 'feel' and a sense of time and expression.
your leads is youthful. i was going to say young.
I hear the typical two note thing and the partial bend.
vibrato is excellent.
a great song. you did pretty good for first out.]]> Hear Here dogbite https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335088 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335067 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:07:37 +0000
You got a really haunting mix and a great, must say haunting (again) sort of sound going on there.

You could bring up the volume of the rhythm a little more... it was especially good, and well timed there in the background.

I don't claim to play well, have no recording gear either, but just encourage you, and say "feel the lead" and don't let concentration take you away?

I admit I don't know you or your work, read your profile at least, but I spent lots of time being asked to critique others in the past with demos sent my way for maybe a 45 second listen?

You're good, got a natural talent lying in there, and I'm still wonderin' if you would just relax, I know you enjoy it, so don't need to try as hard for either the pick attack/inflection or timing of the lead. Let it flow.

I enjoyed it. :D]]> Hear Here Blue Jay https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335067 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335062 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:14:43 +0000 Your timing seemed a bit off at first but that seemed to clear up A bit off was an understatement. I know what part of it is. I found myself in the wrong part of a phrase at the wrong time on numerous occasions. Something clicked when I read what you said, though. The beginning and the end of a phrase seems like it was more important than what I had in the middle. I think someone actually said something about that in a thread at some point. Also, I did get lost a time or two.....or 20.

I gave it a listen later on and tried out another song in this style. (Never Been To Spain) It too was rough in the beginning timing-wise. I found myself doing shorter phrases, but they were not rushed and MUCH smoother. On top of that, I found myself following the melody line of the song at times. It was not intentional. I just stumbled upon it quite by accident and liked it. After a listen, I was really surprised at how much I had aligned to the song.
I'm going to come to you for advice if I ever decide to record. I went to some really simple hook-ups and was quite shocked that it worked. So much for more advanced technology. :mrgreen: Thanks though. It's been fun learning this so far. A lot of what dogbite has said to me in past recordings kind of sunk in. Things like needing to REALLY know the song. Heck, it was my own rhythm guitar and I still got lost on occasion. :oops:

Tomorrow is another day. I need to go buy one more cable and I'll be able to get some drum/bass/piano tracks into the mix from Guitar Pro files. 8)]]> Hear Here rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335062 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335052 Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:17:37 +0000 I'm going to come to you for advice if I ever decide to record.
Right now I'm just using the built-in webcam on my laptop . . . which is good enough for now.]]> Hear Here KR2 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335052 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335046 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:45:38 +0000
Your timing seemed a bit off at first but that seemed to clear up
by the end. Nice tone and some very appropriate Nielish licks.

Keep On Rockin'

:note1: :note1: :note1:

John]]> Hear Here Celt https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-335046 https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-36723 Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:24:54 +0000
I am TOTALLY new to any sort of lead, and due to the ear issues, can't even hear what I've done (except for as low as I can make the amp go) until playback. What we hear in the recording is not what I hear while recording. I get to hear a very low and muffled version of what gets output to the PC. In short, it's like turning on some rock & roll at low volume. You can hear and tell the lead guitar tone. It's a tone I was not able to get out of my amp at very low volumes. Gotta like it! Beats the heck out of not being able to do it at all.

So anyhow, lots of firsts here for me. Some of it works, some of it doesn't. Lemme know what you think works, and what doesn't.....although lots of the things that don't work are quite obvious. I am so new at this lead stuff. I did both the rhythm and lead tracks through my GT-10. Both tracks are second takes. Even with low volumes, I'm at about all I can handle for the afternoon.

"Down By The River" written by Neil Young and made to sound horrible by yours truly. http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7873086]]> Hear Here rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/hear-here/down-by-the-river-neil-young-cover/#post-36723