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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/my-latest-project/#post-378516</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 07:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Sounds really good.Ah, panning.  You&#039;ve got the lead guitar and keyboard hard to one side, and the 2nd guitar hard to the other.  The bass is very round, so there really isn&#039;t much to fill i...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Sounds really good.<br><br>Ah, panning.  You've got the lead guitar and keyboard hard to one side, and the 2nd guitar hard to the other.  The bass is very round, so there really isn't much to fill in the middle except the vocal.  For me, I would move the lead guitar 1/3 center, especially during the solo, and leave the keyboard hard to one side.  Treat the lead solo as if it were a voice.<br><br>I try to imagine the stage and have the panning match the placement of the instruments, so the drums shouldn't be too wide - from half-left to half-right, with the kick dead center.  Bass should be close to center as well.<br><br>When playing with the drums, if you have separate tracks, try adding reverb to a mix of everything except the kick.  Feel free to bump the deep end of the kick.

Yea, I meant to pan the lead over to the center during the lead parts.  Everything is about 50% on either side right now.  I actually like the effect of hard panning and have been using it on a few things.  When listening on speakers, you don't really notice.  It's when you listen on headphones that it stands out.  <br><br>Every time I go back in and listen, I find some other thing I don't like  :D]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/">In The Studio</category>                        <dc:creator>jwmartin</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/my-latest-project/#post-378504</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 03:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Sounds really good.Ah, panning.  You&#039;ve got the lead guitar and keyboard hard to one side, and the 2nd guitar hard to the other.  The bass is very round, so there really isn&#039;t much to fill i...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Sounds really good.<br><br>Ah, panning.  You've got the lead guitar and keyboard hard to one side, and the 2nd guitar hard to the other.  The bass is very round, so there really isn't much to fill in the middle except the vocal.  For me, I would move the lead guitar 1/3 center, especially during the solo, and leave the keyboard hard to one side.  Treat the lead solo as if it were a voice.<br><br>I try to imagine the stage and have the panning match the placement of the instruments, so the drums shouldn't be too wide - from half-left to half-right, with the kick dead center.  Bass should be close to center as well.<br><br>When playing with the drums, if you have separate tracks, try adding reverb to a mix of everything except the kick.  Feel free to bump the deep end of the kick.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/">In The Studio</category>                        <dc:creator>Dan Lasley</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 23:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[OK, I&#039;ll be the contrarian. I prefer the first mix.  :lol:  It&#039;s a little wooly sounding but it meshes together better for me.With this one, the elements are more discrete for sure, but they...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[OK, I'll be the contrarian. I prefer the first mix.  :lol:  It's a little wooly sounding but it meshes together better for me.<br>With this one, the elements are more discrete for sure, but they create a sort of ping pong effect: Pay attention left channel, then pay attention right channel...it makes me very aware I'll listening to a recording of constructed elements.<br>Maybe this brightening but tighter panning of the elements? Might muddy things up in a good way and make things sound more cohesive.

Cool, I'll keep that in mind when I'm mixing tonight :)  I'll reduce the panning a little and try to make it more cohesive.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/">In The Studio</category>                        <dc:creator>jwmartin</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/my-latest-project/#post-378497</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 23:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[OK, I&#039;ll be the contrarian. I prefer the first mix.  :lol:  It&#039;s a little wooly sounding but it meshes together better for me.With this one, the elements are more discrete for sure, but they...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[OK, I'll be the contrarian. I prefer the first mix.  :lol:  It's a little wooly sounding but it meshes together better for me.<br>With this one, the elements are more discrete for sure, but they create a sort of ping pong effect: Pay attention left channel, then pay attention right channel...it makes me very aware I'll listening to a recording of constructed elements.<br>Maybe this brightening but tighter panning of the elements? Might muddy things up in a good way and make things sound more cohesive.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/">In The Studio</category>                        <dc:creator>boxboy</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/my-latest-project/#post-378492</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Roy, for experimentation&#039;s sake, I will play with the mix without re-recording.
That&#039;s why we&#039;re doing this here instead of the other forum section, right? Play with mixes. Learn through oth...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Roy, for experimentation's sake, I will play with the mix without re-recording.
That's why we're doing this here instead of the other forum section, right? Play with mixes. Learn through others. That's what I'm doing. Learning through yooze guys.  8)  8) <br>....even the drums. I used the rendered track of the drums and didn't cheat and go back to Addictive and tweak the kit that way
Sounds nice as well. I'm doing this most of the time as well. A MIDI from GP, run it through Strike (another drum VI) and render however many tracks. I then bus the individual tracks into 1 drum-out track. All the panning and effects done on individual tracks stays intact. I get to do things to the kit as a whole, too, on that one drum-out track. <br>I think your making progress.  The little lick at the beginning is a little reverby (is that a word?) but I like the tone of the rest of the lead.  It's sounding good.
I agree. Pretty nice set of adjustments.<br>Roy, I tried your suggestion of doubling the lead and it just didn't feel right (I have used the before, it just didn't fit this).  I changed the delay I was using to fatten it up a bit though. I need to get better at using delay and such. It's probably a much better way in most cases.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/">In The Studio</category>                        <dc:creator>rparker</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/my-latest-project/#post-378487</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 09:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think your making progress.  The little lick at the beginning is a little reverby (is that a word?) but I like the tone of the rest of the lead.  It&#039;s sounding good.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think your making progress.  The little lick at the beginning is a little reverby (is that a word?) but I like the tone of the rest of the lead.  It's sounding good.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/">In The Studio</category>                        <dc:creator>TRGuitar</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[OK, I&#039;m not done with it yet, but I reached a stopping point and I&#039;m pretty happy with how it sounds.  I do want to record that little lick that the lead guitar does at the very beginning.  ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[OK, I'm not done with it yet, but I reached a stopping point and I'm pretty happy with how it sounds.  I do want to record that little lick that the lead guitar does at the very beginning.  Other than that, I was able to tweak the existing recordings, even the drums.  I used the rendered track of the drums and didn't cheat and go back to Addictive and tweak the kit that way.  I reduced the volume of the lead and re-EQed everything to make everything fit together better.  I think you can hear each instrument individually now.  I fattened the drums up a bit, brightened up the rhythm guitar and cleared up the vocals.  I also brought up the backing vocals a little in the mix.   I think I buried them because I wasn't happy with how they came out.  And reduce the reverb a bit to clear some mud.  <br><br>Roy, I tried your suggestion of doubling the lead and it just didn't feel right (I have used the before, it just didn't fit this).  I changed the delay I was using to fatten it up a bit though.<br><br><a href="http://soundcloud.com/hailcorduroy/breakdown-mix-2">http://soundcloud.com/hailcorduroy/breakdown-mix-2</a>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/">In The Studio</category>                        <dc:creator>jwmartin</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 07:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think when the lead guitar is farther back in the mix you may not find it too bright any more.  We&#039;ll see won&#039;t we.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think when the lead guitar is farther back in the mix you may not find it too bright any more.  We'll see won't we.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/my-latest-project/#post-378483</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Roy, for experimentation&#039;s sake, I will play with the mix without re-recording.  I always work on the theory that &quot;if it sounds good going in, I don&#039;t have to mess with it.&quot;, but it will be ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Roy, for experimentation's sake, I will play with the mix without re-recording.  I always work on the theory that "if it sounds good going in, I don't have to mess with it.", but it will be interesting to see how much I can change the tone without making it sound bad.  I do have a little EQ on there now, but just to make room for the other instruments.  I will tweak the kit a little too. <br><br>Thanks on the singing.  I seem to be able to mimic Petty on some of his songs.  I do Mary Jane's Last Dance with an acoustic and can sound just like him on the verses.  I feel like my singing has come a long way recently.  I volunteered to sing Sultans of Swing with my band and I've been adding in more songs that I sing since then (up to 5 now).  Having to sing in front of everyone at practice and then on stage in front of a crowd will light a fire under your butt.  I told my wife that my Christmas present request would 3 or 4 vocal lessons.  Just to learn some better technique and have someone really critique what I'm doing.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/in-the-studio-in-the-studio/">In The Studio</category>                        <dc:creator>jwmartin</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: My latest project</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 03:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The singing was pretty good.  That I envy.   :mrgreen:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The singing was pretty good.  That I envy.   :mrgreen:]]></content:encoded>
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