https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 19:57:41 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-173700 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:33:54 +0000
:lol:]]> Live Sound Ricochet https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-173700 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-173606 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:11:55 +0000 Robbie]]> Live Sound Robbie https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-173606 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172340 Tue, 18 Apr 2006 04:34:45 +0000
Like Arjen said, your clean channel is not really going to change unless you push the volume way up. Then you get some distortion from the speakers. This is not the same as a tube amp that gets overdriven distortion from the tubes and the speakers.

I think your best best is simply tweak the EQ on your Zoom 505. Here is the manual for the Zoom 505. The EQ settings are described on page 5 of the manual.

Zoom 505 Manual

You may be able to tweak the EQ to get a warmer tone from your amp. It takes lots of time and patience to get EQ right, so hang in there.

Really, to me this is the biggest difference between a solid-state and tube amp. Tube amps just have a warmth and fullness you rarely hear in a solid-state.]]> Live Sound Wes Inman https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172340 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172236 Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:36:33 +0000 Robbie]]> Live Sound Robbie https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172236 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172217 Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:28:27 +0000
The clean of your amp actually is very good, technically superior to that of a hotrod. Now the funny part is that most of us would still prefer the clean of the hotrod, and that's because it isn't really clean at all. Your amp would be excellent for amplifying a modeling unit 100% accurately (the amplifier atleast, speaker might be a tiny problem). If you are looking for a alomost-overdriven, breakin' up sound just out of that amp you are out of luck though, and a hotrod would be a better choice.

What you could also try is messing around with equipment not typically designed for guitar. For example, the Behringer MIC200 tube microphone pre-amplifier could easily be used as a way to add some warmth and gain to your signal and it costs a mere $50 or so.]]> Live Sound Ignar Hillström https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172217 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172185 Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:48:42 +0000
There are tube effect pedals, tube preamps for guitar, and tube preamps.

IMHO these are some of the standouts:

Hughes & Kettner Tubeman Guitar Preamp
Hughes & Kettner Attax
Rocktron Piranha
ART DST-4
Lexicon Signature 284
HotBox_Tube_Preamp_Pedal
Ibanez TK999_Tube_King_Overdrive]]> Live Sound PRNDL https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172185 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172031 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:05:56 +0000
Joe]]> Live Sound forrok_star https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172031 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172007 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:47:40 +0000 Robbie]]> Live Sound Robbie https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-172007 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-171913 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:22:48 +0000 You're on the right track with a cranked Fender amp and the attenuator.

The next part is getting those singing bright leads.
In the old days, you would look at records and pictures for the pedals they used.

On that first clip you can see a very old Fender Bandmaster head and 4x12 cab behind him.
That's the head that Jim Marshall copied in the beginning. He used different output tubes.

The guitar and pickups are important too. Those look like PAF's on his axe. They are definitely hot (high-output).

These days, a quick search on Google is handy. One link talked about the Dallas Rangemaster
http://www.analogman.com/beano.htm

This site shows a completely different rig: http://www.guitargeek.com/
It shows a MXR Phase 90 into an Acoustic 270 Solid State Head and a Roland JC-120
I doubt that this is correct, since the sound is very different.

You might want to check out the Supa Nova pedal sounds ... it might be the squeal you're looking for
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=67

Is that overload??!!
:D]]> Live Sound PRNDL https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/paged/2/#post-171913 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/#post-170432 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 08:55:19 +0000
Wes gave great advice on utilizing and effective use of an attenuator. Even the custom built dummyloads I use I adjust the amp till I find the point where the amp just begins to sage the power supply. Sometimes you'll hear folks say they suck the tone and damaged their amp. Perhaps because they didn't effectivly adjust their equipment and didn't find what they where looking for because they had gone beyond where they needed to be. Most of my are set to just clip -4 to -16 db's off the output and the amps are far from being turn up full tilt.

When you add equalizers between the different stages in the signal chain will also enhance your tone. Equalizer's can also be over used to the point were it deterorates the sound. Sure I use many of them but I only use them just enough to enhance and not subtract from my tone. Almost like less is more when it comes to adjusting or dialing in your tone.

Good luck on your Quest for tone.

Joe]]> Live Sound forrok_star https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-and-efx-not-responsive-to-playing-style/#post-170432