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                        <title>RE: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/paged/2/#post-192469</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[MAN YOU ARE JUST LIKE I WAS (TILL LAST WEEK)  TRY THIS.LOOK UP THE FENDER BLUES JUNIOR(15W) OR DELUX (40W) NOW ITS A REISSUE BUT IT IS TRUE &quot;TUBE&quot; AND ITS TONE IS AWESOME.  I BOUGHT A HOT RO...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[MAN YOU ARE JUST LIKE I WAS (TILL LAST WEEK)  TRY THIS.<br><br>LOOK UP THE FENDER BLUES JUNIOR(15W) OR DELUX (40W) NOW ITS A REISSUE BUT IT IS TRUE "TUBE" AND ITS TONE IS AWESOME.  <br>I BOUGHT A HOT ROD DELUXE LAST WEEK BECAUSE I PLAY MOSTLEY COUNTRY AND THE HOT ROD HAS MORE PUNCH.  THE BLUES IS DIRTY THOUGH TALK ABOUT BLUES, YOU CAN GET FROM CLEAN CLEAN TO IN UR FACE BLUES TUBE SCREAMER.  <br><br>I SUGGEST THIS SETUP<br><br>FENDER BLUES DELUX =&gt; MXR DYNA COMP =&gt; BOSS BLUES DRIVER=&gt; BOSS SUPER CHORUS.... AND YOUR CHOICE OF WAH, PHASER, AND/OR DELAY.... (I SUGGEST BOSS'S DD6 DIGITAL DELAY, IT HAS TAP TEMPO).<br><br>A VOLUME PEDAL IF YOUR LIKE ME I USED THE HELL OUT OF MY VOLUME FOR CONTROL.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>leear</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/paged/2/#post-192177</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[geooOne reason I picked the Crate was because of your interest in the Vox 30 watt. So, I thought maybe this was your budget. But if you can spend a little more there are many nice amps. I ha...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[geoo<br><br>One reason I picked the Crate was because of your interest in the Vox 30 watt. So, I thought maybe this was your budget. But if you can spend a little more there are many nice amps. <br><br>I have already mentioned the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and Peavey Classic 30. These are two of the most popular gigging amps in the world. But also look at the Traynors, and the new Epiphone 30 watt amp too. <br><br><br><a href="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Hot-Rod-Deluxe-Amp?sku=480510">Fender Hot Rod Deluxe</a><br><br><a href="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-Classic-30-1x12-30W-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=481360">Peavey Classic 30</a><br><br><a href="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Blues-Custom-30-Watt-2x12-Combo-Amp?sku=480288">Epiphone Blues Custom</a><br><br><a href="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Traynor-YCV40-Custom-Valve-Combo-Amp?sku=480959">Traynor YCV40</a><br><br>These are just a few amps to consider. But all of these are designed to be gigging amps, and all have very favorable reviews.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Wes Inman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/paged/2/#post-192175</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[guitarists use a small 1 X 12 combo and mic it into the PA.

This is ultimately long term what I want to do.  As for amps my thought was to get the amp you stated (Crate V16 Palomino Tube Am...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[guitarists use a small 1 X 12 combo and mic it into the PA.

This is ultimately long term what I want to do.  As for amps my thought was to get the amp you stated (Crate V16 Palomino Tube Amp ) and use the multi effects I mentioned.  I still think it wouldnt be a bad idea to get some individual pedals to mess around with.  <br><br>Thanks Wes and others.   I think you've all steered me towards some good decisions.  Now if Sept would hurry and get here.<br><br>Geoo]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>geoo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/#post-192173</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[geooThe Crate is probably a lot bigger than you think. But let me tell you something. It is great to have a big Marshall stack on stage, looks really impressive. But it is no fun at all haul...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[geoo<br><br>The Crate is probably a lot bigger than you think. But let me tell you something. It is great to have a big Marshall stack on stage, looks really impressive. But it is no fun at all hauling that cab up a flight of stairs, or even loading it in a car or truck. Gets old REAL quick. <br><br>I go to see bands all the time. You will still see big stacks on stage, but nowadays most guitarists use a small 1 X 12 combo and mic it into the PA. And many times you do not even need to mic it. <br><br>What I'm trying to say is that size is not important.  :D <br><br>I have a story similar to Moonrider's. I used to take my little 1958 Premier Twin 8 amp to a local Open Mic. This amp is very small, about 5 watts, and weighs 10 lbs. at most. But it has great tone and will blow your mind with a good overdrive or distortion pedal into it. I would take this tiny amp on stage and actually sit it on a folding chair. It probably looked comical. I brought a mic stand and mic, mic'd the amp into the PA. There was a good crowd that night, my little Premier probably looked silly with all the bigger amps on stage. That is until I fired it up. You should have seen people's expressions. They were dumbstruck. This little amp ROCKS. A little later a well known local guitarist came in and wanted to get up and play. Guess who's rig he wanted to use? Yep, mine. And he got up there and made my little amp scream. <br><br>So, of course you want an amp that looks good on stage. But more important is an amp that sounds great. Funny thing, a tiny amp that sounds awesome seems very big on stage.  :D <br><br>You could always go with some of the more popular gigging amps like the Hot Rod Deluxe or Peavey Classic 30. These are great amps with good tone and plenty of power for any club. And they are fairly portable as well, around 50 lbs. <br><br>Then if you like lots of effects then just use a multi-efx pedal like the Boss you talked about into one of these amps. This is what many gigging guitarists do today.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Wes Inman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/#post-192164</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I believe lot of people tend to use a very neutral power amp (like a PA or Keyboard Amp) with high end modelers. Apparently, this is the method of choice for many Boss GT-8 users.  Perhaps t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I believe lot of people tend to use a very neutral power amp (like a PA or Keyboard Amp) with high end modelers. Apparently, this is the method of choice for many Boss GT-8 users.  Perhaps the digitech GNX4/ GNX3000 fall into this category, where you can just get by with a modeler and a flat amp....]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>vink</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/#post-192163</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[As some of you know I have been drooling over getting a Schecter C1 Classic and a combo amp for quite some time.  I had decided on the Vox Valtronix AD30VT (I think it is).   Also, I should ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[As some of you know I have been drooling over getting a Schecter C1 Classic and a combo amp for quite some time.  I had decided on the Vox Valtronix AD30VT (I think it is).   Also, I should mention that I had planned on getting the pricer footswitch w/expression pedal with the amp. <br><br>Geoo

FYI, the AD30VT does not support the fancier footswitch. 

Ahh Thanks for the bit of info.  Apparently my local shop didnt know that either.  <br><br>Well, the money for this was again pushed back again but not too far.  I had to loan a friend some money but I'll get to go shopping around Sept 15th for what I want.  Until then I have been looking at a Squier Master Series M-80 and the Vox VR15 or something similar to tide me over until the real shopping day.  I think I can get into this for about 300, which I have.<br><br>After much discussion here my current Sept plans are for <br><br>Schecter C1 Classic (Blue)<br>Hard case (Same one MIke got)<br>Digitech GNX4 Guitar Workstation (I love the sound of the special effects and it has built in looper and a built in drum machine.  Also has some effects I would like to play with)<br>A still undetermined AMP (If I need one)<br><br>I'll probably get the few pedals that I want as seperate pedals (Chorus, distortion, etc) and use them when I dont want to dink with the GNX4 or whatever.  That might be over kill.  I dunno.  But I was already wanting a drum machine and looper so I could use it for practice.<br><br>I dont mind going all out because this is a reward to myself to meeting a very important goal.  I am still not sure what amp but I am leaning towards a basic LOUD tube amp.  Maybe the one Wes mentioned.<br><br>Keep the suggestions coming if you think of anything or spot stupidness on my part.  Its always welcomed.<br><br>Geoo]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>geoo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/#post-192157</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[As some of you know I have been drooling over getting a Schecter C1 Classic and a combo amp for quite some time.  I had decided on the Vox Valtronix AD30VT (I think it is).   Also, I should ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[As some of you know I have been drooling over getting a Schecter C1 Classic and a combo amp for quite some time.  I had decided on the Vox Valtronix AD30VT (I think it is).   Also, I should mention that I had planned on getting the pricer footswitch w/expression pedal with the amp. <br><br>Geoo

FYI, the AD30VT does not support the fancier footswitch. That works with I think the 60 and 120VTX models, which allows you to save many more patches. The footswitch for the AD30VT can switch between ch1 and ch2 (two patches) and turn the effects on or off.  <br><br>Also, generally I have found the effects on that box to be much better than the effects on my Zoom 707 GFX pedal..but there are only a few combinations of effects available.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>vink</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/#post-192143</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget the AD30VT has that built-in attenuator on the back.   If you&#039;re playing at home but still want to dime the master volume and get the 1watt tube fired up, that might be useful. ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Don't forget the AD30VT has that built-in attenuator on the back.   If you're playing at home but still want to dime the master volume and get the 1watt tube fired up, that might be useful. <br><br>With the "real" tube amps you may want to factor an attenuator into the mix.  15w is LOUD.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>slejhamer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/#post-192133</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thats a really good story.  Hey is the VR15 the same as THIS?Couldnt find anything that said VR15Geoo]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thats a really good story.  Hey is the VR15 the same as <a href="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Pathfinder-15R-Guitar-Amp-with-Reverb?sku=481948">THIS</a>?<br><br>Couldnt find anything that said VR15<br><br>Geoo]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>geoo</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Amp confused</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/amp-confused/#post-192129</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Only thing I dont like about that Crate you linked was how small it looks.  Cant get no respect with that.  LOL  Least not until I become a better player. Geoo

Pull up a chair and let me te...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<br>Only thing I dont like about that Crate you linked was how small it looks.  Cant get no respect with that.  LOL  Least not until I become a better player. <br><br>Geoo

Pull up a chair and let me tell ya a story son. . .<br><br>One of my favorite amps is my <a href="http://www.voxamps.co.uk/history/prodArch/vr1530.htm">Vox VR15</a>, which is a hybrid style amp - tube preamp and solid-state poweramp. It's a *great* sounding amp, and is usually the one I grab when I'm headed out to play any type of informal jam, and half the time for band practice. It's also *tiny*, and is absolutely dwarfed by my Hot Rod Deluxe, and my Peavey Duel 212. <br><br>Welp the drummer for the band hosted a jam session in the practice room. I grabbed the Vox, headed over there, and set up next to one of the guest guitarists and his *full* Marshall (AVT100H) stack. It looked kind of like a lunch box sitting there on my tripod stand next to him. He looked down at my tiny amp and said "I'll try not to be too loud." :roll: I told him not to worry about it, we've got plenty of mikes, and channels on the PA for me to mike the amp if I needed to. <br><br>So we start playing, and as we play I keep noticing him looking at my amp with this bemused expression on his face. I've got it set as usual, the tube in the preamp is pushed to the point where I've got that nice touch responsive grit and growl, and leads are just slicing through the mix.<br><br>We stopped for a break and he asked me, "What is that little thing - some kind of custom Vox model? It's walking all over my Marshall." I just grinned, and said. "Nope, it's a Vox VR15, and if you want, you can ride over Guitar Center tomorrow and pick one up on sale for $99." The expression on his face when I told him that . . .<br><br><br><br><br>Priceless.  :twisted:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Moonrider</dc:creator>
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