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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/how-to-get-that-tube-sound/#post-323847</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Another way to go would be to get a distortion/overdrive pedal that uses tubes that are built into the pedal]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Another way to go would be to get a distortion/overdrive pedal that uses tubes that are built into the pedal:<br><br><a href="http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Radial-Tonebone-Plexitube-Distortion-Pedal?sku=153935">http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Radial-Tonebone-Plexitube-Distortion-Pedal?sku=153935</a><br><br><a href="http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Cooltron-Duel-Overdrive-Pedal?sku=150158">http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Cooltron-Duel-Overdrive-Pedal?sku=150158</a><br><br><a href="http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-English-Muffn-Overdrive-Pedal?sku=153335">http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-English-Muffn-Overdrive-Pedal?sku=153335</a><br><br>Dan]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Dan T.</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/how-to-get-that-tube-sound/#post-323816</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I own the Blackheart Handsome Devil head and cabinet. Very nice setup for the price.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I own the Blackheart Handsome Devil head and cabinet. Very nice setup for the price.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Sin City Sid</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/how-to-get-that-tube-sound/#post-323815</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yeah, it&#039;s difficult to really get tube tone from a solid state amp. I agree with Greg (Gnease), use a good Overdrive preset on your multi-efx into the clean channel of your amp. This will g...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yeah, it's difficult to really get tube tone from a solid state amp. I agree with Greg (Gnease), use a good Overdrive preset on your multi-efx into the clean channel of your amp. This will get you close. <br><br>The difference between tube and solid state is the clipping. When a tube amp overdrives, you get a soft, rubbery, or spongy type of distortion, whereas solid state has a hard edge to it. There is nothing wrong with this, some Metal players actually prefer the harder, edgier distortion of a solid state amp. <br><br>There are some good tube amps out there that don't cost a fortune. Look at the Epiphone Valve Jr. or the Blackheart amps. They are a good bargain and put out some good tones. <br><br>And don't worry about tube amps wearing out. I have an <B>all original </B>1958 Premier tube amp that still works fine.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Wes Inman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/how-to-get-that-tube-sound/#post-323789</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Tubes aren&#039;t that much. I just saw two ads yesterday that grabbed my attention. A Sunn A212 made in the 70&#039;s that needs tubes $150.00, toss in $80.00 for new tubes and for $230 you got a kic...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Tubes aren't that much. I just saw two ads yesterday that grabbed my attention. A Sunn A212 made in the 70's that needs tubes $150.00, toss in $80.00 for new tubes and for $230 you got a kick butt amp. Another one was a brand new Peavey Windsor 100w head that was only two weeks old(dude lost his job), $200.00  :shock:  Those are both great deals. Like I said look around.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Sin City Sid</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/how-to-get-that-tube-sound/#post-323763</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Nothing beats a tube amp for a great sound.  Could I suggest one more option, which is really a compromise more than anything else.  I have a Behringer Mic200 Tube Pre-Amplifier that I bough...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Nothing beats a tube amp for a great sound.  Could I suggest one more option, which is really a compromise more than anything else.  I have a Behringer Mic200 Tube Pre-Amplifier that I bought for playing harmonica, and it goes into a Roland Cube 30X SS amp.  The Mic200 has a couple of different settings (keyboard, valve, vocal, e-guitar) and uses a real tube.  It's got gain and output level controls - but it's very noisy.  It does give a nice warm sound though, and most certainly improves the Cube clean sound by adding another dimension to it.<br><br>Behringer generally make fairly cheap, low-end gear, although quite usable, and it has a fairly poor reputation around the more serious and advanced musicians, and if you look around the various guitar websites, you may come across a more mature/upmarket tube pre-amp (or similar) that will bring you perhaps a couple of steps closer to a tube sound.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>bloos66</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/how-to-get-that-tube-sound/#post-323760</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[i got well over 200 hrs of use out of the tubes in my Valve Junior. So it&#039;s not that big a deal. I replaced them with better tubes and the improvement was impressive. So you always have the ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[i got well over 200 hrs of use out of the tubes in my Valve Junior. So it's not that big a deal. I replaced them with better tubes and the improvement was impressive. So you always have the option of tweaking with different brand tubes and some mods that are available for certain tube amps. In the end though i think you'll be glad you spent the money for a tube based amp which ever one you decide to look at.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>scott58</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[replacing tubes is a lot cheaper than buying a new amp.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[replacing tubes is a lot cheaper than buying a new amp.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/how-to-get-that-tube-sound/#post-323742</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[of course you will risk getting spent/near spent tubes or other parts, but on the other hand you may find a great deal! besides you can always replace parts. :wink:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[of course you will risk getting spent/near spent tubes or other parts, but on the other hand you may find a great deal! besides you can always replace parts. :wink:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>TwistedLefty</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/how-to-get-that-tube-sound/#post-323735</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks alot for the opinions.  I really appreciate this help!  The comment on buying a used tube amp was good advice, but don&#039;t tube amps wear out after time of use?Â  Shouldn&#039;t I worry abou...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks alot for the opinions.  I really appreciate this help!  The comment on buying a used tube amp was good advice, but don't tube amps wear out after time of use?Â  Shouldn't I worry about that if I buy a used tube amp?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>tonesearcher</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: How to get that tube sound!</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well I just bought a digitech tone driver overdrive pedal and am planning on putting it on top of my distortion to give it a little kick tonewise.  Will this help my tone problem?

maybe, ma...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Well I just bought a digitech tone driver overdrive pedal and am planning on putting it on top of my distortion to give it a little kick tonewise.  Will this help my tone problem?

maybe, maybe not. probably not. an OD pedal is supposed to overdrive the input to the amplifier. it's an interactive pedal. this is often confusing because many OD pedals often are capable of providing their own, internally-generated distortion that has nothing to do with amplifier overdrive. anyway, overdriving the amp input can sound very nice on tube (preamp) amplifiers. but overdriving a solid state amp in hopes of getting a nice overdriven tube sound is not likely to happen. given your set-up, you should shoot for creating the sound you want directly out of the EFX pedals, and then feed that signal to your solid state amp operating in clean, linear (not overdriven) model. that way, the solid state amp won't contribute as much to the sound, just make it louder.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>gnease</dc:creator>
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