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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/small-venues-how-many-watts/#post-220192</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[We are speaking of guitar amps only? In Live Sound the discussion is normally about PA gear. To play gigs, you usually want a guitar amp at least 50 watts if solid state, and at least 30 wat...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[We are speaking of guitar amps only? In Live Sound the discussion is normally about PA gear. <br><br>To play gigs, you usually want a guitar amp at least 50 watts if solid state, and at least 30 watts if all tube amp. You can use smaller amps but you will run out of clean headroom. What I mean by that, is you want lots of "clean" volume. Even if you are in a Rock band, you are going to want to play some songs with clean guitar (no distortion). But if you have a loud drummer and bass player you are going to have to crank that little 20 watt solid state amp to max to get above them. The amp will distort and you will lose your clean tones. So this is why you want a powerful amp for gigging, so you can get clean tones at big volume. You can always get distortions with the amp's distortion channel or a good pedal. And as Kingpatzer said, if the other guitar player has a 100 watt amp, you are going to get drowned out. Guitar players tend to play as loud as possible no matter what. This is not good musicianship and will not make the band sound good, but they will play as loud as they can <B>regardless</B>. So if you have other players with powerful amps, you want something that can compete volume-wise. <br><br>You have already said your 30 watt solid state amp ain't cuttin' it, better get something like 100 watts.  :wink:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Wes Inman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/small-venues-how-many-watts/#post-219832</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[so if everyone had 30 watts, it would sound good?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[so if everyone had 30 watts, it would sound good?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>GhostNoter</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/small-venues-how-many-watts/#post-219831</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[More important than being able to be heard over the drummer is the size of everyone else&#039;s amps.You want to be in the same percieved volume band for everyone in the band if you&#039;re going to b...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[More important than being able to be heard over the drummer is the size of everyone else's amps.<br><br>You want to be in the same percieved volume band for everyone in the band if you're going to be playing a small venue iwthout a PA.<br><br>If you have a 20 watt amp and everyone else is playing through 120 watt monsters, you'll have a hell of a time getting everything to sound right. Particularly if everyone is on all-tube amps.<br><br>Digital amps are a slightly different story . . .]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>kingpatzer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/small-venues-how-many-watts/#post-219794</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[awsome... you guys rock thanks for all the help, i know now what i need to do before a gig with PAs etc. thankyou all!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[awsome... you guys rock thanks for all the help, i know now what i need to do before a gig with PAs etc. thankyou all!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>GhostNoter</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/small-venues-how-many-watts/#post-219665</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[really? i thought you needed at least 50 watts just to out do the drummer! How many watts minimum would be needed to be heard clearly over the drummer?
All other things being equal (speakers...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[really? i thought you needed at least 50 watts just to out do the drummer! How many watts minimum would be needed to be heard clearly over the drummer?
All other things being equal (speakers, housing, etc.) a 50W amp will be minimally louder than a 30W amp. <br>I was at a concert, where the main act played his reso through a 10W Vox Pathfinder amp to a hall set out banquet style (you could eat and drink during the concert) with an audience of 300+. He was plenty loud (his secret? He miked it through the house PA).]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>greybeard</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[guitar amps put out more than you think.... also Mic the amp it helps, plus drummers dont&#039; believe it but they can play dynamically]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[guitar amps put out more than you think.... also Mic the amp it helps, plus drummers dont' believe it but they can play dynamically]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>leear</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/small-venues-how-many-watts/#post-219474</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[really? i thought you needed at least 50 watts just to out do the drummer! How many watts minimum would be needed to be heard clearly over the drummer?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[really? i thought you needed at least 50 watts just to out do the drummer! How many watts minimum would be needed to be heard clearly over the drummer?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>GhostNoter</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/small-venues-how-many-watts/#post-219453</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You will never need more than a good 20-30 watt amp with excellent speakers no matter what venue size you play. Larger venues will need a sound system to augment that amp.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You will never need more than a good 20-30 watt amp with excellent speakers no matter what venue size you play. <br><br>Larger venues will need a sound system to augment that amp.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>kingpatzer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[ok, cool thanks, at the moment im only using a line 6 spider II 30 watts, which definatly wont be enough as i found out, but ill most likly just rent sound systems when i do gigs as im not t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[ok, cool thanks, at the moment im only using a line 6 spider II 30 watts, which definatly wont be enough as i found out, but ill most likly just rent sound systems when i do gigs as im not the richest guy around, and i dont need them atm moment, congrats on your hundreth post...<br><br>Thanks for the replys, ill porbely only ever need not that much, as ill only ever do small gigs but the smaller PAs will proberly do me.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>GhostNoter</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Small venues, how many watts?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/small-venues-how-many-watts/#post-219217</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[YAY WHOO 200th post... ok anywaykeeping in mind what is mentioned above, i said make sure you have enough power going to each speaker, this being said if you are trying to play for 200 peopl...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[YAY WHOO 200th post... ok anyway<br><br>keeping in mind what is mentioned above, i said make sure you have enough power going to each speaker, this being said if you are trying to play for 200 people, a pair of 200W RMS speakers at 8ohms will most likely NOT do it too well....Give me info on your gear and all I can better help You]]></content:encoded>
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