https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 10:57:48 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-351197 Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:05:15 +0000
The one thing I noticed was that the pedal really boosts the output of the guitar, I was extra loud Friday. Also it seemed the distortion side cut the volume and the OD side increased it.

I didn't really liek the distortion by itself but it was OK with the OD, the OD sounded good on it's own.]]> Live Sound cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-351197 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350959 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:01:54 +0000

Here is a pic of one ... and a link

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-GT6550-Tube?sku=211210

Interesting concept. Maybe it was the Blues Junior that is fixed bias? Oh .. I looked it up, here is the reason for my confusion.
The power section uses a "fixed bias" biasing scheme with an adjustable bias potentiometer installed from the factory. The factory bias is 60 mA total for both 6L6s. It comes from the factory with a trim pot. That is a mod that can be done to my Peavey Classic 30. Turns out fixed bias is actually the adjustable one and cathode biasing is the non adjustable .... but you do need the trim pot to do the adjustment. Here is a neat article I found that explained it without exploding my brain.
http://www.theguitarfiles.com/guitarfile-print-183.html]]> Live Sound TRGuitar https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350959 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350952 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:24:29 +0000
I could in theory replace them with original Fender Groove tubes but I'm interested in something a bit different.

If I really wanted to have the amp biased I have a guy I know that's a sound engineer and has worked on anything related to musical electronics for years and I'm sure he'd do it for free for me.]]> Live Sound cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350952 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350939 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:21:31 +0000 Live Sound TRGuitar https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350939 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350888 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:07:07 +0000
Biasing has to do with the current getting to each tube (OK I'm sure it's much more than that but that's about all I know) and you have to tweak the bias to the tubes otherwise the tube will run hot and burn out faster or run cold and I would guess give you less than stellar performance.]]> Live Sound cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350888 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350873 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:16:35 +0000 Live Sound rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/paged/2/#post-350873 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/#post-350867 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:34:29 +0000
Sounds like a plan, getting some new tubes, and giving 'er another try. :D]]> Live Sound Blue Jay https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/#post-350867 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/#post-350865 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:28:07 +0000
I hooked up to my Hot Rod deluxe which I haven't been using because I think the tubes are going and it sounded pretty sweet with the Epi les Paul.

I haven't tried it with the Strat or Jackson yet but I will try it tonight to see what kind of tones I can get.

Playing through the Johnson J-Station directly into the PA was an improvement over the tone I was getting but this was like night and day.

I'm still a bit uncertain about the condition of my tubes. I had a guy come by that has been doing sound for years and he played the amp and though the tubes sounded fine then after he played it awhile he did think one of the power tubes might be going. He suggested I pull a power tube out one at a time and see if it corrected the problem. I haven't tried that yet.
I think once I get some cash that I'll just go ahead and buy the new set of tubes.]]> Live Sound cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/#post-350865 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/#post-350826 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 06:50:01 +0000
I've also used my GT-10 out of my Fender SCXD now. I am a big fan. I am a lot more familiar with the GT-10 and I am with those 16 voicings on the Fender. Plus, all's I gotta do is flip the dial or mash the pedals and I can get to a patch almost instantly with the GT-10. With the 16 voicings thing, I gotta remember which voicing, where the volume and gain knobs were, the bass and treble and what effect(no plural) I might have been using. Heck with that. I'm going to get a travel bag for the Gt-10. Keeping the amp though. Great clean channel.]]> Live Sound rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/#post-350826 https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/#post-350225 Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:10:27 +0000 Live Sound cnev https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/there-is-tone-out-there/#post-350225