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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-136829</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 06:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I sound different if I&#039;ve been at it for a few hours, too.  :lol:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I sound different if I've been at it for a few hours, too.  :lol:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Ricochet</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-136770</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of pros who warm their tube amps up for a number of hours.  The reasoning is that when the tubes get really warmed up they become a bit less ef...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of pros who warm their tube amps up for a number of hours.  The reasoning is that when the tubes get really warmed up they become a bit less efficient and a bit more musical.  His description was of amps coming off the truck first and getting switched on ASAP.

As King said, I doubt that is really going to work. There really should be no audible difference between having it warm up fifteen minutes and having it running for many hours. But as with many things: if you yourself believe that something has an effect then you're probably going to hear it, whether it actually exists or not. A core part of the perceived tone is not the tone itself but what your brains make of it, which can be pretty different.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Ignar Hillström</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-136571</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I turn my amps on with standby on and let them warm up for 2-5 minutes, then switch standby off.  When I am finished playing I simply turn the amp off. I don&#039;t usually put my amp in standby ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I turn my amps on with standby on and let them warm up for 2-5 minutes, then switch standby off.  When I am finished playing I simply turn the amp off. <br><br>I don't usually put my amp in standby during breaks at gigs, I just turn my guitar down. <br><br>I have never really noticed the tone changing over time. After maybe 2 minutes of warmup, the amp seems the same to me.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Wes Inman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-136287</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of pros who warm their tube amps up for a number of hours.  The reasoning is that when the tubes get really warmed up they become a bit less ef...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of pros who warm their tube amps up for a number of hours.  The reasoning is that when the tubes get really warmed up they become a bit less efficient and a bit more musical.  His description was of amps coming off the truck first and getting switched on ASAP.

I've seen that for more than a few shows. I don't particularly know if it's true or not, After all, once the tube and plate are warm, they're as warm as they're going to get in normal operation, and there should be no more changes due to thermal effects after that point. And that point happens a lot sooner than a couple of hours.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>kingpatzer</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-136192</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 05:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[A friend of mine tells me that there are a lot of pros who warm their tube amps up for a number of hours.  The reasoning is that when the tubes get really warmed up they become a bit less ef...]]></description>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-135939</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There are changes that occur in tube equipment as it warms up. Mostly related to drifting values of capacitors and resistors in the circuitry as they warm up from the heat of the tubes. You ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[There are changes that occur in tube equipment as it warms up. Mostly related to drifting values of capacitors and resistors in the circuitry as they warm up from the heat of the tubes. You can REALLY see that with an old tube AM radio. Turn it on and tune in a station. As it plays for a few minutes, the sound will start fading and getting distorted. It's out of tune. Tweak the tuning knob a bit, and it comes back. A few minutes later you'll have to do it again, and so on until it reaches equilibrium.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Ricochet</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-135876</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the responses. I was curious, because the tone of my amp seems to change after about five or ten minutes. It could be my imagination. I had taken to leaving it on most of the day,...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks for the responses. I was curious, because the tone of my amp seems to change after about five or ten minutes. It could be my imagination. I had taken to leaving it on most of the day, so I could play whenever I wanted.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>sarton</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-135842</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 04:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have no concept of time with the thoughts of the music still ringing in my head. joe

Wow! What a poetic tagline! Stolen for my sig, Joe!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I have no concept of time with the thoughts of the music still ringing in my head. <br><br>joe

Wow! What a poetic tagline! Stolen for my sig, Joe!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Moonrider</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-135824</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really have any set time.  Generally I turn things on and finish setting up the rest of my equipment or if the equipment has been left from the day before. I check to make sure no on...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I don't really have any set time.  Generally I turn things on and finish setting up the rest of my equipment or if the equipment has been left from the day before. I check to make sure no one unplugged anything. Same goes for turning it off, generally I turn the amps off and leave the cooling fans run,  then unplug the cables and start packing things up.  By the time I turn the rack case fans off everything is good to go. I have no concept of time with the thoughts of the music still ringing in my head. <br><br>joe]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>forrok_star</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Tube Amp Warm Up Time?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/tube-amp-warm-up-time/#post-135724</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 05:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll agree with Tracker on the warmup time. I&#039;ll disagree on the importance of cooldown. I don&#039;t mind carrying mine out in freezing weather right after shutdown. I&#039;ve got one little tube amp...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'll agree with Tracker on the warmup time. I'll disagree on the importance of cooldown. I don't mind carrying mine out in freezing weather right after shutdown. I've got one little tube amp (an Electar Tube 10) that I've lugged back and forth to work (I can play quietly in the back office) on a nearly daily basis for 3 1/2 years, so it sees more of that rough treatment than most gigging players would put on in 10 years. Hasn't hurt it yet, and there's no plausible physical mechanism for tubes suffering if they're not cooled down before movement. Tubes were used in mobile equipment in cars, Jeeps, airplanes, hand-carried stuff, for many years before transistors became practical, and they got used harder in those applications than in guitar amps. <br><br>It's also a modern guitar amp myth that it's harmful to tubes to handle them. You'll never find that mentioned in any tube manufacturer's books on tubes or in electronics books from the tube era. It's a misapplication of a truth about halogen lamp tubes. They operate at higher temperatures than normal light bulbs, and use fused quartz envelopes. <br>The salts in perspiration, not oils from the fingers, react with the quartz at high temperatures producing soft spots with different expansion characteristics from the pure quartz and the envelope can break due to thermal stresses. Electron tubes are made of glass and don't operate at such high temperatures. Normal practice with tube electronics has always been to handle the tubes with bare fingers, except where hot tubes must be pulled out of operating equipment to change them on the fly, in which case they're pulled with tongs.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/live-sound/">Live Sound</category>                        <dc:creator>Ricochet</dc:creator>
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