https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 05:49:27 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/3/#post-351125 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:10:30 +0000
I reckon an honest answer would be "None". Mr Rosenthal offers moral outrage by the hour. :lol: :lol: :lol:


So I think I've got a way to have my stuff be legal and okay....KARAOKE....okay don't laugh, here's what I found.

A place that allows you to customize you karaoke tracks (like vocals, guitar, back vocals etc.)

The down side is it's $3.00 per track....BUT....I think that this will greatly help me stay on tune and in key, as well as improve my timing with the guitar.

Not only that, buy buying the track, I'm legal, and can do it.

So for instance....I'll be downloading a couple tracks this week, I won't have the acoustic guitar, lead vocals, or some other instrument etc. So I'll be spending some time with this LOL.

Here is a link to check out....very cool stuff, kind of like a custom backing track. I think it'll be more fun too to just jam out and sing with a backing like this....so my videos/covers my get a ton better...I'm hoping they do, because I've been having a BLAST playing along with these.

http://www.karaoke-version.com/custo...he-making.html]]> News JoeHempel https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/3/#post-351125 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/3/#post-351107 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:03:21 +0000 News bkangel https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/3/#post-351107 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351101 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:35:32 +0000
I reckon an honest answer would be "None". Mr Rosenthal offers moral outrage by the hour.]]> News greybeard https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351101 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351100 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:53:13 +0000
I've tried to explain my position on the Tab Takedown page and my recent blog post.

In case you want to focus your frustration at me I only hope my answers so far are adequate. I'm afraid I can't match Mr. Rosenthal in terms of moral outrage.]]> News Paul Hackett https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351100 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351057 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:29:39 +0000
But putting aside the law, morally I have always found it incredibly offensive for people to use the works of others without their permission. Wow, I wonder if he has permission to use the books he pulls this language from, or what paper he plagiarized that from.]]> News JoeHempel https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351057 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351041 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:58:38 +0000
Dear mr Rosental,

Thank you for your reply! I won´t bother you with anymore e-mails, but I feel I have to comment on your reply.

I am not at all convinced that music artists anywhere would have a problem with people trying to transcribe one of their songs for purposes of learning to play it for themselves or to teach someone else how to play it.

I do think that would more likely be seen as a sign of respect and admiration for the persons work. If we were talking about performing someone elses songs for the purpose of making money - that would be a whole other issue - one for which I certainly agree that the artists permission should be sought!

It would be very interesting to hear from the music artist community and get their opinion on this, since I feel that this is rather an issue that is being pursued by lawyers and the record companies - not the artists themselves.

For a musiscian it´s the greatest compliment you can get if other people like your music so much that they want to learn it for themselves - and even teach other people!

Music is an art form that exists for the purpose of entertainment. It´s not a commodity like a car or even a painting. To forbid people to try to interpret a song, and to write that down, that´s just not right... it´s just wrong in my opinion.

But I guess we will never understand each others different point of views and will just have to agree to disagree. I do respect your opinions and I thank you for taking the time to write me an answer - for some reason I hadn´t quite expected that.

Best Regards,
/Staffan]]> News Staffan https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351041 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351039 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:32:28 +0000
Here´s what he wrote:

Dear Mr. Persson: Thank you for your note. I appreciate your point of view and your obvious love of music, but I disagree with your conclusion. The choice of deciding whether to offer a gratis license for tablature must be made by the publisher and/or the songwriter – not by those running websites. That is what copyright is all about – the right to authorize use. Our ultimate goal is not to shut down websites, but to license websites. Enforcement of copyright is the only tool publishers and songwriters have to protect their rights – essentially, it is the human right of the creator and those owning the works. Enforcing copyrights is the only way to ensure there will be incentive for songwriters to continue to write and for publishers to support those songwriters.

But putting aside the law, morally I have always found it incredibly offensive for people to use the works of others without their permission. Many people say they love artists, but how can they when they use their works without permission and/or without compensation. It is not enough to love the art – you must also love and respect the artist. So perhaps you should focus your frustration toward those who use tablature without authority. Perhaps you can ask them why they believe they have the right to do what they do and why they disrespect the songwriter by not asking for permission. You may find the answers to be inadequate.

I hope that is food for thought. Take care.

Not very surprisingly he focuses on the LAW, and really stands up for those poor artists whose work are being spread over the world, and played and listened to without their explicit permission. :|]]> News Staffan https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351039 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351032 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:18:18 +0000 News JoeHempel https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351032 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351026 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:56:12 +0000
How blind can you be?

I actually wrote mr Rosenthal, of the NMPA, an e-mail, using the address posted earlier in this thread (don´t worry, it´s in plain-no-cursing-language :lol: ). I know ít´s not going to help the least, but - hey - I feel I have to speak my mind since this is so ridiculous. This is what I wrote:

Dear mr. Rosenthal,

At present time a lot of internet sites are being contacted by legal representatives of the NMPA & MPA, in being asked to remove any sort of guitar tablature of copyrighted songs from their sites.

I agree that artists should be paid for their work, but I strongly disagree that publishing "tabs" of an artists song on the internet would somehow diminish the revenue for that particular artist - if anything it probably increases it, as more people come in contact with the music and there´s a good probability that several people in fact go out and buy the record, based on this.

I know this e-mail isn´t going to make a difference, but I just had to write to you and speak my mind. I think this action of the NMPA & MPA will hurt the music industry as a whole as well as the individual artists, and I know a lot of people are really upset with this. There must be some way of resolving this, that will benefit both the artists as well as the "user/listener", as the current solution only brings negative consequences for both parties - guaranteed!

Best Regards,
/Staffan Persson
Music Lover
Stockholm, Sweden

I don´t expect to get a reply :roll:]]> News Staffan https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351026 https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351016 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:27:37 +0000
But maybe it will be a good thing.]]> News JoeHempel https://guitarnoise.forum/news/youtube-channel-getting-heat/paged/2/#post-351016