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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/buying-a-beginners-guitar/paged/2/#post-338957</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If you look at Yamaha, check out their APX line. I&#039;ve seen some advertised around the Â£250 mark, and the series is really good. I don&#039;t know if they extend to the sub-Â£200 category, but it...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[If you look at Yamaha, check out their APX line. I've seen some advertised around the Â£250 mark, and the series is really good. I don't know if they extend to the sub-Â£200 category, but it's worth a look.

Excellent call on the APX guitar.<br>GuitarCenter was having its Labor Day weekend sale.<br>I went today and looked at some acoustics. The store was very crowded because of the sale and the extended weekend.<br>I picked up and played about a dozen acoustics.<br>One of the two I liked best was from the Yamaha APX line . . . I didn't catch the rest of the number.<br>The other was the Epiphone Hummingbird . . . when I started bumping elbows with other customers, I decided to leave . . . so I didn't try the "electric" part of the electric-acoustics.<br>I didn't like the way my fingers stuck to the strings though . . . I'm used to my fingers gliding off the D'Adarrios on my electric.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>KR2</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/buying-a-beginners-guitar/paged/2/#post-338891</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hey,When I was shopping around for my first acoustic, just over a year ago, I made a list of some supposedly good guitars. This was cribbed from various guitar forums, and so on. Anyhow, I c...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey,<br><br>When I was shopping around for my first acoustic, just over a year ago, I made a list of some supposedly good guitars. This was cribbed from various guitar forums, and so on. Anyhow, I came up with this:<br><br><I>Sub Â£150</I><br>Vintage V300, V400<br>Cort Earth 70,  Earth 72<br><br><I>Sub Â£200</I><br>Cort Earth 100, Earth 100R, Earth 102R<br>Tanglewood  TW28STR DLX, TW115S<br>Crafter D6, D7, GA6, GA7<br>Vintage V200, V800<br><br>I didn't keep links or anything, sorry; it was purely an aide memoire. I may have been a bit of a brand snob and deliberately left off Yamaha!  :oops: <br><br>Anyway, when shopping - try as many as you can get your hands on. Yes, it will feel embarrassing trying out the couple of chords you know - I was only confident with the open E chord when I first shopped! However, maybe get to a shortlist of guitars, and then get one of the shop assistants to play something on each of them. Then you can try and judge the sound from the audience perspective, too.<br><br>Whereabouts in the UK will you be shopping - have you some stores in mind?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>faultythinking</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/buying-a-beginners-guitar/paged/2/#post-338629</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thank you KR2!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thank you KR2!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>MK1974</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/buying-a-beginners-guitar/paged/2/#post-338611</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure I should admit this, but my ultimate aim would be to play some John Denver songs â€“ he is my dad&#039;s favourite and is hardwired into me â€“ so a folksy sound might be fine.

You ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm not sure I should admit this, but my ultimate aim would be to play some John Denver songs â€“ he is my dad's favourite and is hardwired into me â€“ so a folksy sound might be fine.

You and your dad have very fine taste in guitar music.<br><br><a href="http://www.heartwoodguitar.com/Guitar%20Music%20for%20Web/Denver,%20John%20-%20Take%20Me%20Home%20Country%20Roads.htm">http://www.heartwoodguitar.com/Guitar%20Music%20for%20Web/Denver,%20John%20-%20Take%20Me%20Home%20Country%20Roads.htm</a>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/buying-a-beginners-guitar/#post-338602</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Great tips again everyone.The Encore sounds interesting. And you have convinced me to just pick one up and start playing what I can, or asking the assistant to demonstrate.I&#039;m not sure I sho...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Great tips again everyone.<br><br>The Encore sounds interesting. And you have convinced me to just pick one up and start playing what I can, or asking the assistant to demonstrate.<br><br>I'm not sure I should admit this, but my ultimate aim would be to play some John Denver songs â€“ he is my dad's favourite and is hardwired into me â€“ so a folksy sound might be fine.<br><br>Thanks again.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had a couple of Yamahas in my time, both of them costing around Â£120, and both of them were nice guitars - felt comfortable and the action wasn&#039;t too high. Tone-wise, a little top-heav...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I've had a couple of Yamahas in my time, both of them costing around Â£120, and both of them were nice guitars - felt comfortable and the action wasn't too high. Tone-wise, a little top-heavy - the treble strings didn't really cut through - for my taste, but quite mellow. More folk than rock, IMO. Stagg and Farida make some decent guitars; for the same price, I'd say they were about equal to the Yamahas. The Staggs, in particular, seemed a bit brighter in tone; good for fingerpicking (I know, you're a beginner, but still....) and more trebly than the Yamahas. More rock&amp; blues than folk. The Faridas? Somewhere in between....a decent all round guitar, but I'd say the Yamahas and Staggs had more sustain.<br><br>Just casting my mind back a few years to when I started playing again - my (re-)entry level guitar was an Encore, from my step-daughter's catalogue - couldn't afford to buy one except on a weekly basis. I didn't actually expect much from it, but I was pleasantly surprised - fairly mellow tone, and even barre chords weren't that bad up to about the 7th fret. When I upgraded, it was to a Yamaha with a cutaway - I kept the Encore for quite a while, used it -in open G tuning - for slide. It looked like a pretty cheap guitar, next to the Yamaha - but there was very little difference in tone and playability, at least to my ears.<br><br>These are just the entry level guitars I've actually had experience of playing; obviously, there are many other brands, but I couldn't comment on something I've never tried.<br><br>If you're nervous about showing off your chops (or lack of!) in the guitar shop, ask one of the assistants to play for you - something along the lines of "I've only just started to play, I'd like to hear it in the hands of an experienced guitarist who can actually get some music out of it..." will appeal to the showman/woman in said assistant; they'll be only too happy to roadtest it for you and make it sound good!<br><br> :D  :D  :D <br><br>Vic]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Vic Lewis VL</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Try not to go in on a Saturday - if you can cop an hour or so off work during lunch or something, a weekday is much much quieter, especially with the kids back in school. 

There is such a n...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Try not to go in on a Saturday - if you can cop an hour or so off work during lunch or something, a weekday is much much quieter, especially with the kids back in school. 

There is such a night and day different between Saturdays and week-days.  Even if you go after work on a week-day it seems better than going on Saturdays.  Of course, that could go both ways - Saturdays are good if you want the place so busy the salesperson will leave you alone if you're not acting as if you're ready to buy something and you don't look like you're going to break anything.<br><br>Although you won't be able to hear yourself over <I>that annoying kid that keeps playing the same metal riff over and over at crazy volumes for two hours straight.</I> :lol: I don't even work at a music store and can testify to that.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>bluesy</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If you look at Yamaha, check out their APX line. I&#039;ve seen some advertised around the Â£250 mark, and the series is really good. I don&#039;t know if they extend to the sub-Â£200 category, but it...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[If you look at Yamaha, check out their APX line. I've seen some advertised around the Â£250 mark, and the series is really good. I don't know if they extend to the sub-Â£200 category, but it's worth a look.<br><br><br>And welcome to Guitarnoise!  8)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Scrybe</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[As someone who used to work in a music store, I can say the following....Try not to go in on a Saturday - if you can cop an hour or so off work during lunch or something, a weekday is much m...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[As someone who used to work in a music store, I can say the following....<br><br>Try not to go in on a Saturday - if you can cop an hour or so off work during lunch or something, a weekday is much much quieter, especially with the kids back in school. This means the palce will be quieter, meaning both that the staff will be less stressed (and thus nicer, I hope! lol) and you wont be drowned out by the annoying kid playing the same metal riff over and over at crazy volumes for two hours straight.<br><br>Also, the only thing that really annoys staff in guitar shops is that annoying kid who insists on playing the same metal riff over and over at crazy volumes for two hours straight. He comes in every Saturday. He sometimes even brings his mates in to watch. Even they find his antics annoying. And he's been playing that same riff every Saturday for the last six months without buying anything more than a plectrum or two, and always uses the best gear he can persuade us to let him loose on. <br><br>Seriously though, repeating the same tune/chords on several acoustics is infinitely nicer than someone doing it on a loud electric. And, as long as it isn't Smoke On The Water, Smells Like Teen Spirit, or Stairway To Heaven, it usually doesn't bother us. Those ones get played so often I'd leave them out of your 'performance' (and trust me, if you go in on a tuesday or wednesday, chances are the store will have taken new stock and the sales guys will be too busy updating inventories, storing them, discussing new models, etc. to really pay enough attention to your playing to get annoyed by it).]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Scrybe</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Buying a beginners&#039; guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t be nervous... if the only people going into music stores were people that can already play, most stores would have to close.  It is very common and they will help you.  If you are made...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Don't be nervous... if the only people going into music stores were people that can already play, most stores would have to close.  It is very common and they will help you.  If you are made to feel amateur or uncomfortable, go somewhere else.  There is one music store (the biggest) in my town that I will not shop at.  They are snobs and pretty much ignore anyone until they prove they are worthy of their attention.  I never had any good service in there until an amazingly skilled coworker of mine went over with me.  The difference was jaw dropping. <br><br>Many music stores also have "acoustic rooms" - private rooms for listening to and playing guitars.  Take advantage of them.<br><br>Also, don't let the sales person tell you what sounds good.  If it sounds good to you, that is what matters.<br><br>Get them to throw in a few extras too... strings, a few picks, soft case?, strap? no tax... etc.  Doesn't hurt to ask, and they want you back.  Also ask about a trade up program if you want to buy something better later.  <br><br>It also wouldn't hurt to play a couple of higher end guitars... so you can actually hear what a really good guitar sounds like.  In the beginning, I didn't know there was that big a difference... until a sales guy put a $4000 Taylor in my hands.  Wow.]]></content:encoded>
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