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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[How did this pan out in the end? Is it all sorted now or has it happened again since?

We talked and he apologized and everything is fine.  At our last show, our singer asked if we needed to...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[How did this pan out in the end? Is it all sorted now or has it happened again since?

We talked and he apologized and everything is fine.  At our last show, our singer asked if we needed to go over that song before we got on stage :).  <br><br>After all this went down, we actually found out guitarist is moving across the country in August, so he's leaving the band anyway.  I've been considering leaving for a while because it's just not what I want to keep playing.  It was my only organized musical outlet for a while, but now I've got the cover band thing going, so I have other, more fun, outlets.  I talked to the singer after our last show and told that I was basically not wanting to go on with the band.  Our drummer is taking a break as well, so we all agreed to just take the summer off and see where we are in the fall.  Our drummer knows a  guitar player who is interested, so he has some of the songs and I've been providing chord charts for him.  Maybe in a few months I will want to go back, maybe a different guitarist will spark a different feel.  Maybe I'll just help them find a different bass player and move on.  It's tough leaving a band like that.  I've written lyrics and music for almost half the songs and music for a big part of the rest of them, so it may be the singer's (who founded the band) vision, but it's my music and/or words.  If I do leave, I have no problem with them still performing my stuff, it's not like I'm going to go form another horror punk band and play it.  But there is still an emotional attachment to the material.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>jwmartin</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Moonriders&#039; right...dead on right. And it was a sort of lecture because he wants you to learn from it. I&#039;d have probably punched out someone that stopped the act dead on stage. Get rid of hi...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Moonriders' right...dead on right. And it was a sort of lecture because he wants you to learn from it. I'd have probably punched out someone that stopped the act dead on stage. Get rid of him now...because that's not all he's going to stop. Mark my words. <br><br>Cat]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/had-a-show-last-night-and-need-to-rant/paged/2/#post-374748</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 03:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[How did this pan out in the end? Is it all sorted now or has it happened again since?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[How did this pan out in the end? Is it all sorted now or has it happened again since?]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>almann1979</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Bands are like any other relationship maybe more dysfunctional than most but no matter what your going to have disagreements/fights 99% of the time they&#039;ll just blow over the other 1% call f...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Bands are like any other relationship maybe more dysfunctional than most but no matter what your going to have disagreements/fights 99% of the time they'll just blow over the other 1% call for change. I can't imagine breaking up over this one incident.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>cnev</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yea, we&#039;re not going to break the band up over it.  I&#039;m just going to talk to him mano y mano next time we get together and let  him know it doesn&#039;t need to happen like that again.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yea, we're not going to break the band up over it.  I'm just going to talk to him mano y mano next time we get together and let  him know it doesn't need to happen like that again.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>jwmartin</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Jeff, I hope you and band-mate can resolve this issue with a never again kind of resolution.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Jeff, I hope you and band-mate can resolve this issue with a never again kind of resolution.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well I agree with everyone... :lol:, but I still would have started a fight over it...J/KI agree with Moonrider with Al&#039;s take ..in a perfect world, but unless this is your only means of inc...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Well I agree with everyone... :lol:, but I still would have started a fight over it...J/K<br><br>I agree with Moonrider with Al's take ..in a perfect world, but unless this is your only means of income it's still nothing more than a hobby and I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over it. Doesn't mean you shouldn't be as professional as possible but..stuff happens.<br><br>Contracts? Maybe that's the norm in VA but in CT if it's just a regular bar there aren't any contracts or if so very rarely. When I worked at a big local nightclub that had local and national/international big name acts playing the only contracts were for the national or very, very big drawing locals which were like 4 or 5 maybe, but they'd be bringing in over 1000 people.<br><br>99% of bars will give you the door that's it, and you might not get all of it, and a few will pay a flat rate though.<br><br>But back to the problem regardless of whether you need a backup it's still a pain in the butt to can someone and find a replacement evern if you are in an area of plenty of musicians.<br><br>Since it sounds like it was a one off I'd just let it slide but I would have a talk with the whole band about how to handle these situations in the future. I know we have discussed this and the agreement was to keep going with the song and don't stop. Sometime easier said than done, escpecially since when we practice we do stop if things aren't right.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>cnev</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good comments Moonrider, I guess where i live, it is a bit sparse (with very few bands) and we have found it very difficult to find people locally to replace band members we have lost in the...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Good comments Moonrider, I guess where i live, it is a bit sparse (with very few bands) and we have found it very difficult to find people locally to replace band members we have lost in the past, so i was just posting my personal experience  :D  <br><br>In all honesty, we have a stand in guitarist ready to step in at short notice if needed, but other than that, if the bassist, singer, or drummer fall ill, we need to cancel :(<br><br>Fortunately, that has never happened in 5 years of being together, and gigging very regularly, but, one day it will im sure.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>almann1979</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[This is difficult, I agree with moonrider but only in an ideal world.It can be a long hard task to get a band together, and to get rid of a member can cause a void in gigging time, or even t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[This is difficult, I agree with moonrider but only in an ideal world.<br><br>It can be a long hard task to get a band together, and to get rid of a member can cause a void in gigging time, or even the end of a band depending on how long it takes to get a replacement. 


No band member is irreplaceable OR indispensable. Watcha gonna do when the drummer breaks a wrist, or the other guitar player slices a finger open and needs stitches the day of a show? You find someone to fill-in or do the show without 'em. it only takes breaking contract on ONE show to ruin a band's reputation. <br><br>If one of the members of my band can't make rehearsal, it's not canceled, we practice our emergency plan for that member being out for a show. Our lead singer left us New Year's Day with no warning. We may not replace her at all.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Moonrider</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Had a show last night and need to rant</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[This is difficult, I agree with moonrider but only in an ideal world.It can be a long hard task to get a band together, and to get rid of a member can cause a void in gigging time, or even t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[This is difficult, I agree with moonrider but only in an ideal world.<br><br>It can be a long hard task to get a band together, and to get rid of a member can cause a void in gigging time, or even the end of a band depending on how long it takes to get a replacement. <br><br>I have experienced similar myself with a singer who constantly put down the other band members on stage, and threw hissy fits if we used the microphones to engage with the crowd.  His reason being that he was the front man and if we had a bit of banter we undermined him and made him look useless  :? <br><br>The reason we put up with him though, was because we were tight as a band, and more importantly, at the end of the night, when the crowd used come and chat, they generally told us (and him many times)' what an arrogant so and so he came across as, but how nice the rest  of us seemed.<br><br>I guess what I'm trying to say is, no matter how put down you felt at the time, the audience will recognize he was at fault with his attitude' and ultimately, he should be the one with the regrets.<br><br>I hope you work it out with him anyway,]]></content:encoded>
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