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                        <title>Re: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/has-anybody-else-heard-about-this/paged/13/#post-287612</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[could be both.  I remember the fish slapping dance on Monty Python.

So they slapped fish on Monty Python ?  :lol:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[could be both.  I remember the fish slapping dance on Monty Python.

So they slapped fish on Monty Python ?  :lol:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/has-anybody-else-heard-about-this/paged/13/#post-287352</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[could be both.  I remember the fish slapping dance on Monty Python.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[could be both.  I remember the fish slapping dance on Monty Python.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Oenyaw</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/has-anybody-else-heard-about-this/paged/13/#post-287262</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Legally, TABs figured out by ear are public property. 

I am sure you mean public ear...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Legally, TABs figured out by ear are public property. <br>

I am sure you mean public ear...]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/has-anybody-else-heard-about-this/paged/13/#post-287181</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Legally, TABs figured out by ear are public property. They can&#039;t touch it.They might have a case against stuff like PowerTab, maybe. But you figure it out by ear and it&#039;s yours.( :lol: A fri...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Legally, TABs figured out by ear are public property. They can't touch it.<br><br>They might have a case against stuff like PowerTab, maybe. But you figure it out by ear and it's yours.<br><br>( :lol: A friend of mine is a lawyer.)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>SGinCYQX</dc:creator>
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                        <title>I&#039;ll pay for tab, but it better be 100% accurate</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/has-anybody-else-heard-about-this/paged/13/#post-212379</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 08:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I believe that if somebody is using the works of another artist to earn a living then they should provide some fair and reasonable compensation, but I also believe that if somebody is sittin...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I believe that if somebody is using the works of another artist to earn a living then they should provide some fair and reasonable compensation, but I also believe that if somebody is sitting in their living room listening to a song and they figure out how to play it for their own enjoyment, then that is their right.<br><br>I rather suspect that 99% of the people getting tabs here are doing so for their personal enjoyment.  I'll never make any money playing the songs I've downloaded tab for.  It's about the talent, not just the notes and words.  I rather doubt anybody who earns a living as a cover band uses this stuff.  And if they do, then they are building a revenue stream for the recording industry, not siphoning from it.  If these bands were selling recordings of their covers that's a different story, but that's easily tracked.  <br><br>There is a finite number of sequences of chords and notes (that sound pleasing in the form of western music) and one could easily build a mathematical model that proves that there are already far more songs and melodies written than could possibly be entirely unique.  There will be an intro, a bridge, a riff, an outro or something that has been used before.  Ask Red Hot Chili Peppers.  Dani California is about as far from Tom Petty as one can get and look at the stink that created.  Gee maybe the reason it really doesn't sound like it is because of bad tab stolen from one of the online archives?  Yeah, right.<br><br>Cover Bands, now there is a good one, with some room for argument about the financials but not about the intent.  I have seen a group from the bay area called Heartbreaker.  They are an awesone Led Zeppelin tribute, and The Austrailian Pink Floyd show has actually had member of Floyd jam with them.  These bands don't sell recorded content because they don't record, but you can bet your bottom dollar they've generated some sales.  I never actually was that much of a Zeppelin fan until I bought my first guitar and then saw Heartbreaker.  <br><br>So, record exec fat cats, tell me this... where did the 12 bar blues originate and have the lot of you been making royalty payments to that person over the past 100 years that you've been blatantly publishing his or her works?  What about the 1/4/5 chord progression?  Surely we can trace that to its inventor so you can pay up?  Maybe the minor pentatonic scale?  Do you send a check to Link Wray's estate every time you make a fistful of money off the latest band to laydown a dozen tracks of distorted power chords?  It is the nature of greed to allow the mind to begin to actually develop a sense of entitlement and ownership when the reality is that all these people have invented is a tool to market shiny round metal objects containing the work of other people.  And that work was based on the work of many, many other artists who came before them if we are paying the most recent artist to use these techniques then I expect to see evidence that the industry is playing by its own rules.<br><br>Ya think "Have a Cigar" was purely fiction?   :wink: <br><br>And to those recording industry execs who think that sharing song lyrics is a form of theft I will simply say " 'scuse me, while I kiss this guy."   8) <br><br>Cheers and Rock On!<br>Ron]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>rwolfe12</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 08:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[NoteBoat, you always have interesting and intelligent comments! ;)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[NoteBoat, you always have interesting and intelligent comments! ;)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Nexion</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/has-anybody-else-heard-about-this/paged/12/#post-203803</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[No one is claiming copyright protection on chords or intervals.  Copyright is extended to the sequence of intervals, though - just as copyright for a novel is extended to the sequence of let...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[No one is claiming copyright protection on chords or intervals.  Copyright is extended to the sequence of intervals, though - just as copyright for a novel is extended to the sequence of letters and words.<br><br>The most interesting debate over copyright is happening in the UK right now.  Libraries are pressing Parliament to revise copyright law because of the rise in digital rights management, with some sound arguments:<br><br>- Digital rights protection doesn't expire; once a work is coded for protection, it is protected forever - superceding the expiration provided for in copyright law<br><br>- Digital rights do not allow libraries to make additional copies to preserve their collection, something explicitly allowed under copyright law<br><br>- Digital rights attached to platforms, such as iPods, inextricably link the rights protection to a technology, requiring the purchase of specific hardware and the potential need for upgrade purchases to maintain a collection.<br><br>- As a result of these arguments, digital rights management seizes for itself rights that have not been assigned by law, to the detriment of public libraries.<br><br>I think in the near future, the libraries will open to door to wider discussion of these issues, with the potential for re-thinking the entire rights protection logic.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>NoteBoat</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[This is what confuses me.  At what point does intellectual property become your possession?Just about everything in our lives has been built off of someone else&#039;s idea at some point or anoth...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[This is what confuses me.  At what point does intellectual property become your possession?<br><br>Just about everything in our lives has been built off of someone else's idea at some point or another? <br><br>If someone were taking the artists actual work, remastering it and selling it without permission.  That would clearly be a violation of their rights to intellectual property.  With that said, it is my opinion that if you see something, reengineer it yourself, then offer it to the public for free, then you are in a sense doing no more than taking an idea and making it a product of your own creation.<br><br>What they are trying to do is essentially saying that the recording industry actually has the rights to chord progressions and intervals.  Where do you draw the line?  Next they will try and dictate what settings you can have your gear on because your tone is too close to their clients?<br><br>Lyrics are another story.  They can clearly be defined as original work, and would be the same as copyrights on books and other literature.  Anything else is a matter of interpretation.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Evolution_VIII</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Nonsense!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Nonsense!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>heyz</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Has anybody else heard about this?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve previously discussed &quot;Happy Birthday.&quot; The rights belong to AOL-Time-Warner.

well I guess you can&#039;t believe every thing you hear on the John Boy and Billy show :oops: ( my wife listen...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[We've previously discussed "Happy Birthday." The rights belong to AOL-Time-Warner.

well I guess you can't believe every thing you hear on the John Boy and Billy show :oops: ( my wife listens to them :lol: )Yeah, I listen to 'em most every morning. I don't believe everything I hear there, but it's a hoot!  :lol: <br><br><a href="http://thebigshow.com/">http://thebigshow.com/</a>

ROTFLMAO--the dog]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>smokindog</dc:creator>
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