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I can still remember some of the stuff you sent to Nils ages ago, that would have decimated a small rain forest had it been written on paper!!

Only kidding mate, thankfully there are people like you who take the time to help others out.

Rik]]> Opinions and Polls Rik Anderson https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/paged/2/#post-239541 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239290 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 03:42:52 +0000
It's very encouraging to get positive feedback, and doubly so when it comes from people whose playing I've long admired.

And amongst all the waffle, I forgot something... :oops: :oops:

Loved the T-Bone Walker video clips!! :D 8)

Cheers,

Chris]]> Opinions and Polls Chris C https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239290 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239183 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:46:46 +0000
Simple and clear. Perfect.

Thank you very much! :)]]> Opinions and Polls Nuno https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239183 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239172 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:52:52 +0000 I hear ya.
That's where I wanna be too....
Playing by touch, sound, and instinct.

I feel like I play by rote. :x
It's very frustrating.
I mean, If I know how to do someone elses lead, I'll have my own touch on it.

Improvising, it's very....... unsatisfying.
Just sorta grabbing at notes, and if I hear something I like... I'll hold it and give it some nice finger vibrato.
If I dont like it, keep going. (within the scale)
That's sorta how the greats say they did it in the beginning - grabing notes and if it was wrong, bend it til it was right. LOL

I was reading some of noteboats stuff before this posting, and he said that he had his students figure out where the tonic notes
were as a natural starting place - then find where the 5th's were for a natural resting place.
After they had that - they seemed to be more phrase-ful with their solos.
I could see that the 5th would be a good place to pause, as 5th chords are ambiguous - fitting over both minor and major
chords. (sorta making a fuller sound with 2 guitars/one playing 5th chords)
So it stands to reason that the 5th note would also 'float'.
Now I just need to find those - funny thing is, I probably already 'do it', and just don't know.
Becoming aware of it though would enable me to go there WHEN I WANT to - instead of finding it in the dark.

He also said that he had them start on the tonic on the first bar - at first.
Then he had them grab a tonic before the 1st bar (I can't quote him, though I think he said that made it a 7th)
I KNOW that move. A Clapton move from the Blues Breakers Beano album. A sense of extreme urgency with that move.
What I'm trying to say though is that I know it from Clapton, I don't know what it is, or Why it is.
And that bugs me.

At any rate, I think I've started to ramble.
I really appreciate all your time and energy on this.
And I would love to help you 'suss' (did I use that correctly???? :D ) out your diagram idea :)

Ken]]> Opinions and Polls CitiZenNoir https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239172 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239047 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:44:50 +0000
I knew absolutely nothing about theory before I joined GN - a few months later, I was answering the same sort of questions I'd been asking as a Newbie. There's a real feeling of accomplishment when it all starts to come together, isn't there!

Well done, mate!

:D :D :D

Vic]]> Opinions and Polls Vic Lewis VL https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239047 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239034 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:20:25 +0000 I guess I have learned more than I gave myself credit for.
So I'm at an awkward stage - where I know enough to be dangerous and not much else. I don't think that's such a bad place to be really. An element of danger and the 'yet to be revealed' keeps life interesting I reckon. Most of the stuff behind 'theory' has pretty simple foundations, but often the terminology makes it sound highly complicated. Sometimes it's just that you need lots of different ways of saying things because they're so alike. So terms like thirds, trios, iii, triplets, triads, etc all look pretty weighty but they all just mean 3 in one form or another. And we can all do 3. :)
I would like to know how to break out of the box (literally) as far as soloing goes.
I know the diferent positions up and down the fretboard - it just seems that moving to them is so cliche'.
Like - there has to be a way to connect them. Or, move "in-between" them.
Only I'm afraid that that will create another 'box' that I'll be trapped in.
I don't know. Exactly what I thought. But I can now more or less run up and down the neck in any direction and stay in key. In fact I don't even need to know which key I'm in. I can just start at a random spot and set off and stay in the key of the root note I began on. But it's far from instant. I still had to do it for quite a few hours until it 'stuck'.

The way I thought about it was this:

I don't want to learn other people's songs like a "Paint by numbers" exercise - just aping what the sheet music or Tab said. I want to make my own music and know how and why I'm doing it. But how to get there? Everybody talks about "Seeing the Fretboard" this way or that. And that's how you start - visually. But I want to move on to knowing it by touch (good players don't stare at the neck) and then by sound. Finally I want it all to work by instinct. Play a note and then have my fingers make the right jump, both musically in terms of the interval I can 'hear' that I'd like to come next, but also jump physically around the fretboard. Actually, I was slow to pick up on the whole lead guitar bit.
Mostly I played rhythm.
Me too. :) Just a 'campfire' style strummer to start with (and I started very late at 58! :shock: :shock: ) I'm sure you're way ahead of me in some areas. And I'm really only a whisker in front with theory I think.

I must say I'm loving the whole guitar thing. Trying to suss it all out, and then make the fingers actually do what you've worked out is a lot of fun. And when it works, what a joy! 8)

If I do get my act together with some diagrams I'll either post them here somewhere or else send them to you in a PM and we can 'road test' them, and see if I'm talking crap or not... :roll: :wink:

Cheers,

Chris]]> Opinions and Polls Chris C https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239034 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239026 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:08:00 +0000
Yeah, I guess if I actually studied theory more, I would pick it up.
I guess I have learned more than I gave myself credit for.
So I'm at an awkward stage - where I know enough to be dangerous and not much else.

I would like to know how to break out of the box (literally) as far as soloing goes.
I know the diferent positions up and down the fretboard - it just seems that moving to them is so cliche'.
Like - there has to be a way to connect them. Or, move "in-between" them.
Only I'm afraid that that will create another 'box' that I'll be trapped in.
I don't know.
Actually, I was slow to pick up on the whole lead guitar bit.
Mostly I played rhythm.
My break out solo was for Peter Green's Black Magic Woman back in the band days.
Still - never touched anything like T-Bone's stuff though.

Thankx again for all your help.
And I'm glad to see that you find this helpful to you as well.
I'll see if I can come up with more such topics.... :D

Ken]]> Opinions and Polls CitiZenNoir https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239026 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239017 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:38:00 +0000 Which has always confounded me when it comes to music. :D Most of us at some time I think.

The underlying concepts can seem pretty bewildering, mostly because many theory books don't give a good overview - they just plough straight into the detail.

I see it all as just finding different ways of picking teams that work together, and using them as "Tools". They actually aren't as rigid as "Rules" but they make great guidelines and starting points.

When I started out trying to understand the guitar I spent a fair bit of time staring at the neck and figuring out why it was designed and tuned the way it is. After a while the patterns just jumped out at me, and I could see that if I plonked my middle finger anywhere on the neck, and called that the 'root note' (number 1 in the scale) I could easily find where the 3 and 5 are (the rest of the "heart" of a chord) and also where the 2,4, 6 and 7 lie.

If you can entrench the memory of the patterns then it makes it easy to build chords, and also fairly easy to play solos that will fit with them.

From then on it was just practice to entrench what is (to my mind) THE guitar pattern. The interesting thing though is it's not the same as the scale patterns you usually see taught. The beauty of it is that I basically use 3 simple elements that fit together to make one pattern, rather than lots of different ones that vary depending on where on the fretboard you are. The elements aren't actually chord shapes (although they do show 3 basic chord shapes up very clearly) they are more like 'Lego blocks' for the scale. And they work anywhere on the neck, up down or sideways. 8)

One day I'll get my act together and draw up some diagrams and post them here and see if anybody else sees it the same way, or thinks it's useful or not. :wink: Works for me anyway...

Cheers,

Chris]]> Opinions and Polls Chris C https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239017 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239012 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:13:30 +0000 Opinions and Polls Eirraca https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239012 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239011 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:03:08 +0000 Awsome.

I guess I should say that,
I know how to PLAY the major, minor, and blues scales...
And I know what a I-IV-V chord progression is.
And stuff like that.
I can play it, I just don't understand the concept behind it all.
Which has always confounded me when it comes to music.

And T-Bone has a real jazzy thing goin' on that I have yet to grasp.

I can't say as I understood everything that you said....
I will have to get out my guitar and go through what you wrote and put it with something more tangible for me (the actual guitar)

I'll keep you posted as to my progress.

Thankx again Chris :D :D :D :D

Hope I can return the favor sometime

Ken]]> Opinions and Polls CitiZenNoir https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/i-like-my-t-bone-well-done/#post-239011