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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/my-first-amp-advice/paged/3/#post-248387</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Dennis, what is that guitar? (not the 51)

That&#039;s an Ibanez Artcore AS83. it used for only $249.  Looks brand new and plays great.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Dennis, what is that guitar? (not the 51)

That's an Ibanez Artcore AS83.  <br><a href="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-AS83-SemiHollow-Electric-Guitar?sku=519764">http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-AS83-SemiHollow-Electric-Guitar?sku=519764</a><br>Got it used for only $249.  Looks brand new and plays great.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>DennisF6</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/my-first-amp-advice/paged/3/#post-248361</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The 30W version is Â£40 ($80) more than the 15w version. So it really is too expensive for meThanks thoughDennis, what is that guitar? (not the 51)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The 30W version is Â£40 ($80) more than the 15w version. So it really is too expensive for me<br><br>Thanks though<br><br>Dennis, what is that guitar? (not the 51)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Triple_C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Any chance you can go up in price to the AD30VT?  Looks like it&#039;s about $50 more. You might not need the extra power but, ironically, this model plays at low volumes better than the AD15VT.T...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Any chance you can go up in price to the AD30VT?  Looks like it's about $50 more. <br><br>You might not need the extra power but, ironically, this model plays at low volumes better than the AD15VT.<br>The difference is that the 30 has a variable power control.  You can set it to run with only one watt or so, then crank up the gain and get nice distortion at low volumes.  With the 15 the only way to get real, overdrive distortion (as opposed to digitally modeled distortion) is to play REALLY loud.   Really loud might be ok for you if you don't have any housemates and your neighbors live far away, but that isn't the case for most of us.<br><br>You won't be unhappy with either the Roland or Vox 15 watt amps but if you can afford the extra price, the AD30VT is a really great practice amp!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>DennisF6</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks, the Vox AD15VT just keeps looking better and betterI REALLY need to try this out :twisted:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks, the Vox AD15VT just keeps looking better and better<br>I REALLY need to try this out :twisted:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Triple_C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I personaly own a VOX AD15VT. One of my friends also owns one.It is the best sounding 15 watt amp I have ever played. Infact nothing else has come close(this doesnt mean I didnt think marsha...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I personaly own a VOX AD15VT. One of my friends also owns one.<br><br>It is the best sounding 15 watt amp I have ever played. Infact nothing else has come close(this doesnt mean I didnt think marshal half  stacks didnt sound better...).<br><br>You can reach a pretty wide variety of sounds on it.<br><br><br>I was also going to buy a Spider 3, I played one in a guitar center while I was on vacation and it didnt sound good in any way shape or form.....the concept was good though.....<br><br>My only complaint about the VOX is that the headphone/line out jack sounds like shit. <br><br>My amp is used I am told it is a few years old, but hardly played, it works fine. If someone didnt already tell you the warm up is about 4-7 seconds.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>benpari</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Now you&#039;ve gone and gotten my expectations up, so if this is anything but the best, someone will pay :twisted:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Now you've gone and gotten my expectations up, so if this is anything but the best, someone will pay :twisted:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Triple_C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Some weeks ago I went with a friend to buy him his first guitar/amp. The choice was between the Spider3, Cube30 and AD30 as well. The Spider3 was, in our opinion, by far the worst. It looks ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Some weeks ago I went with a friend to buy him his first guitar/amp. The choice was between the Spider3, Cube30 and AD30 as well. The Spider3 was, in our opinion, by far the worst. It looks nice, and has pretty lights, but it's responsiveness blows. The cube and AD are both excellent, with the cube being best in ultra-cleans and hi-gain, with the vox being best in 'warm cleans' and bluesy/rock sounds. He went with the Vopx, as did I. But both are great amps for the price.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Ignar Hillström</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[This is really good  :D From my shop of choice:Roland Cube 15X: Â£79Vox AD15VT: Â£109Line 6 Spider 3 15 (Not so keen on this now): Â£99 OUT (unless some can convince me otherwise.I haven&#039;t t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[This is really good  :D <br><br>From my shop of choice:<br>Roland Cube 15X: Â£79<br>Vox AD15VT: Â£109<br>Line 6 Spider 3 15 (Not so keen on this now): Â£99 OUT (unless some can convince me otherwise.<br><br>I haven't tried the Vox yet, but I'll definitely try to at the weekend.<br>Out of the Cube and Spider 3, I like the cube most so spider 3 is out.<br><br>That leaves Vox and Cube, but there is a Â£30 difference (60 dollars!) which will affect my decision, but if I love the Vox, then I'll go for it for sure.<br><br>So anyone who has played both these amps, can you give me your verdict?<br><br>Keep the good advice coming!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Triple_C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[In music it&#039; all about the effect, and if the final sound that goes into the mixerboard is the right one you did well. That can be with a tube amp and no effects, or completely digital over ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[In music it' all about the effect, and if the final sound that goes into the mixerboard is the right one you did well. That can be with a tube amp and no effects, or completely digital over over-processed, as long as you get the sound you need. Electric guitars can sound practically anyway you want them to and it can be easy to lose perspective and add too much. Anyway, do NOT go for the Vox if you are in it for the effects because it is really very limited in that department. The Vox is really aimed for bluesy/rock tones and you can select no less then one effect, usually reverb. If you want to go hi-gain crazy Boss/Line6 is your solution with the GT8/Flextone etc. <br><br>As for tube vs solidstate: ignore what is harder to fix/maintain/whatever. Go for sound first. Right now I'm doing everything with amplitube, sounds better then my digital V-amp, hybrid Vox AD, analogue modeling GMX212 and tube Epi VJH. But that's just taste. Don't look at the label, listen to them.<br>Anyways, a tube will give you a better tone, and a better clean. 

It's music, not NASCAR-racing. A car can be faster then another, an amp cannot be better then another. That's the glorious thing about music, and arts in general. By making such mental shortcuts you're shooting yourself in the foot, probably. Ever thought about why those jazzers love their solidstate JC120s so much? It's not because the clean is so bad...<br>Effects are like a toy. You play with them, they are entertaining.

Take any of your favourite guitarists and check the effects. Don't forget that even the 'straight into the amp' guys use plenty of effects: just because it's the sound engineer doing that post-recording don't mean they aren't there! The weird thing is that effects don't seem to mature in guitar-land that much. When was the last time you saw someone use expression pedals for delay times, flanger depths or reverb roll-offs? All I see is people turning effects on or off, but hardly anyone (Muse is an exception eg) learns to actually play the effects in a musical way. Strange, because so much better stuff is being done in the synthesizer-land, where people can play melodic solos just by changing parameters to multiple effects on the fly. <br><br>Effects are more then a toy, if you treat them as more then a toy. We have to quit thinking a flanger is a 'reptitive woosh-woosh' sound, it's the unnatural and static use of effects that make them sound so lame.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Ignar Hillström</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: My First Amp Advice</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I agree with Wes - too many effects detract from the overall sound of a good amp (whether SS or tube) - it&#039;s like they&#039;re being used for the sake of using them.I have a Pandora PX4, which of...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I agree with Wes - too many effects detract from the overall sound of a good amp (whether SS or tube) - it's like they're being used for the sake of using them.<br>I have a Pandora PX4, which offers a whole raft of effects - basically the only one that I use is one that I created myself and sounds similar to a VOX AC30 with some 60s reverb added. The 50 presets and the few custom patches never (OK, rarely) get a look in.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>greybeard</dc:creator>
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