https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:46:14 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/5/#post-295482 Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:51:22 +0000 Well, I can't really let a good coversation about Nietzsche get away! :twisted:

This could get kinda complicated in just this small slice of his many facets.... hope I don't lose anyone in my
poor writing abilities....

First - Not even close to being a Nazi.... IMO, not political either way.
I see the Nazi's being closer to Social Darwinism than to Nietz.'s philosophy's.

And Nietz. was accoused of being Social Darwinistic.... Not true.

Nietzsche's 'Ubermensch' was not Darwinistic in that Darwinism is about the 'Natural Order' of things.... Natural Selection.

The 'Ubermensch Concept' is about the 'Will' to become that.... That it was not up to nature, more; Man had to have a WILL
to better himself AND the race in general.

To say that the Ubermensch is beyond morality doesn't exactly do the concept justice....
That almost seems to have negative connotations....
Singularly ~ Jesus Christ could be considered 'Ubermensch' - He was perfect and therefore 'beyond morals'.
(Yes, I know Nietzsche was the one who said God is Dead.... bear with me :wink: )

The concept of the Ubermensch is about the evolution of mankind.... Quite literally.
To leave behind what we are now and evolve to the next step.... To look back and see what we are now
as we now see the ape.

The Ubermensch Concept was introduced by Nietzsche in his book: Thus Spake Zarathrustra.

It is that concept that is the key to understanding the movie/book 2001: A Space Odyssey.
If you've ever thought - WOW, what a great movie! Too bad I don't know what it's about....?
Now you do.

It starts with apes (pre-mankind).... And in the end, we see mankind evolve Beyond Man, or 'Over Man' (Uber Mensch).
If that's not good enough - Can any of you tell me what the name of the song is that is the 'theme' song of 2001????
I'll tell you -
Also Sprach Zarathrustra by Strauss. (See that, I tied music into this :) )

Also, (back to the Hitler thing).... Hitler and Darwinism want to weed out the weak, sick, 'the unperfect' and create
a strong and perfect gene pool....
Where as Nietzsche saw any 'anomaly' as being beneficial to evolution;
Which also infuses an ingredient not unlike compassion into Nietzsche's philosphies (at least compared to Darwinism).

And if you haven't yet read 'The Birth of Tragedy' ~ I highly recomend it.... Probably my fav Nietzsche book.

Ken You know, there's a wealth of band names in this post. My fave is "It Starts With Apes"
I have hi lighted possibilities. LOL!

Nice finds there F&H!
I see you've tuned into my subliminal frequency :twisted:

I'm really liking "The Unperfect" 8)

I just might have to use that one :wink:

Ken]]> Opinions and Polls CitiZenNoir https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/5/#post-295482 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/5/#post-295315 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:18:47 +0000
If the posters here ever get together and form a band then "The NietzschePickers" would seem like a natural choice. :wink:]]> Opinions and Polls Chris C https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/5/#post-295315 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-295281 Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:56:25 +0000
Jack]]> Opinions and Polls jackss565 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-295281 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-295151 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:07:04 +0000 Well, I can't really let a good coversation about Nietzsche get away! :twisted:

This could get kinda complicated in just this small slice of his many facets.... hope I don't lose anyone in my
poor writing abilities....

First - Not even close to being a Nazi.... IMO, not political either way.
I see the Nazi's being closer to Social Darwinism than to Nietz.'s philosophy's.

And Nietz. was accoused of being Social Darwinistic.... Not true.

Nietzsche's 'Ubermensch' was not Darwinistic in that Darwinism is about the 'Natural Order' of things.... Natural Selection.

The 'Ubermensch Concept' is about the 'Will' to become that.... That it was not up to nature, more; Man had to have a WILL
to better himself AND the race in general.

To say that the Ubermensch is beyond morality doesn't exactly do the concept justice....
That almost seems to have negative connotations....
Singularly ~ Jesus Christ could be considered 'Ubermensch' - He was perfect and therefore 'beyond morals'.
(Yes, I know Nietzsche was the one who said God is Dead.... bear with me :wink: )

The concept of the Ubermensch is about the evolution of mankind.... Quite literally.
To leave behind what we are now and evolve to the next step.... To look back and see what we are now
as we now see the ape.

The Ubermensch Concept was introduced by Nietzsche in his book: Thus Spake Zarathrustra.

It is that concept that is the key to understanding the movie/book 2001: A Space Odyssey.
If you've ever thought - WOW, what a great movie! Too bad I don't know what it's about....?
Now you do.

It starts with apes (pre-mankind).... And in the end, we see mankind evolve Beyond Man, or 'Over Man' (Uber Mensch).
If that's not good enough - Can any of you tell me what the name of the song is that is the 'theme' song of 2001????
I'll tell you -
Also Sprach Zarathrustra by Strauss. (See that, I tied music into this :) )

Also, (back to the Hitler thing).... Hitler and Darwinism want to weed out the weak, sick, 'the unperfect' and create
a strong and perfect gene pool....
Where as Nietzsche saw any 'anomaly' as being beneficial to evolution;
Which also infuses an ingredient not unlike compassion into Nietzsche's philosphies (at least compared to Darwinism).

And if you haven't yet read 'The Birth of Tragedy' ~ I highly recomend it.... Probably my fav Nietzsche book.

Ken You know, there's a wealth of band names in this post. My fave is "It Starts With Apes"
I have hi lighted possibilities.]]> Opinions and Polls Fever and Hum https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-295151 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-294742 Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:26:08 +0000 I liked "Project: Zephyr" too, but the other fits with out sprecial guests.. for example, at the moment we're playing as "Ugly Graham & The Zephyr Project".

We got on the zephyr thing because it's a) a cool breeze (in ancient greek) & b) a classic 50's/ 60's car (made by ford) here in Australia. But I like that top picture - that'd be a cool album cover. No we just need money to record.....
there's always something! 8)]]> Opinions and Polls Rob77 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-294742 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-294604 Sat, 31 May 2008 15:24:49 +0000



The top pic is a Deco 'Streamlined' Locomotive....
The bottom is an actual Zephyr type.

Ken]]> Opinions and Polls CitiZenNoir https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-294604 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-294602 Sat, 31 May 2008 15:12:36 +0000 Glad it's finally been agreed upon!

The Zephyr Project.... Kinda like - The Alan Parson's Project; Or Blues Project.
I like it.

Though, 'Project: Zephyr' sounds good too! :twisted:
Gives it that early space program vibe, like; 'Project: Mercury'

I dunno - Guess I like that backwards military speak.... Like; Specimen: Unknown

Zephyr reminds me of an old 30's locomotive....
How about a nice Art Deco Locomotive as the 'band mascot'....?
(or at the least, an album cover? :wink: )

Ken]]> Opinions and Polls CitiZenNoir https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-294602 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-294601 Sat, 31 May 2008 12:47:07 +0000 Opinions and Polls Rob77 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-294601 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-292719 Fri, 16 May 2008 01:54:01 +0000 Whadyarekon?]]> Opinions and Polls Rob77 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-292719 https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-290644 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:30:22 +0000 Opinions and Polls Rahul https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/new-band-name-anyone/paged/4/#post-290644