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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310574</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hey, Philly...If ya &quot;feel&quot; whatever it is you are playing...it&#039;s &quot;yours&quot;...you own it. Don&#039;t sweat the grey matter&#039;s retention capacity.  :wink: Cat]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey, Philly...<br><br>If ya "feel" whatever it is you are playing...it's "yours"...you own it. Don't sweat the grey matter's retention capacity.  :wink: <br><br>Cat]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310526</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m glad this topic got posted, I&#039;ve only been playing for a year but lately have been getting a little disheartened by how hard a time I&#039;m having retaining songs, particulalry longer songs....]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm glad this topic got posted, I've only been playing for a year but lately have been getting a little disheartened by how hard a time I'm having retaining songs, particulalry longer songs.  Seems like my brain only has enough room for 12 bars at a time.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>phillyblues</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310497</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You mean I&#039;m going to lose body fluids faster than my mind?This does not make good imagery.(Picturing me lost, dehydrated, and staggering around in a puddle.)I&#039;m going to another thread now....]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You mean I'm going to lose body fluids faster than my mind?<br>This does not make good imagery.<br>(Picturing me lost, dehydrated, and staggering around in a puddle.)<br>I'm going to another thread now.<br>KR2]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>KR2</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310494</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If song retention were like fluid retention, we&#039;d get better at it with age.
 :) Up to a point...After that, leakage of fluids happens even more uncontrollably than memory leaks.   :shock:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[If song retention were like fluid retention, we'd get better at it with age.
 :) <br><br>Up to a point...<br><br>After that, leakage of fluids happens even more uncontrollably than memory leaks.   :shock:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310488</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If song retention were like fluid retention, we&#039;d get better at it with age.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[If song retention were like fluid retention, we'd get better at it with age.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Ricochet</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310463</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have no memory to speak of. I can&#039;t remember a song for any longer then three days at most if I dont play them. Of the 200+ songs I wrote in the past two years I can play less then five ri...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I have no memory to speak of. I can't remember a song for any longer then three days at most if I dont play them. Of the 200+ songs I wrote in the past two years I can play less then five right now. I cannot play any cover.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Ignar Hillström</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You know Hyper...the funny thing is, I&#039;m talking about songs that I learned by ear. No sheet music. I actaully took the time to get them down by ear. You would think that by using that metho...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[You know Hyper...the funny thing is, I'm talking about songs that I learned by ear. No sheet music. I actaully took the time to get them down by ear. You would think that by using that method, I would retain them longer since it took, somewhat, more time to learn. There are a mixture of songs were I've written them down after having figured them out. But still same result.

Once you've worked it out by ear do you write it down?  Writing stuff down helps to burn it into the brain.<br><br>Do you take the stuff you've worked out and written down and try to compact it?  You know identify the repeat sections, the looping back (you see this as d.s. al coda or other types of repeats), the overall form?  This reduces the volume of what you need to remember.<br><br>How about abstracting what you worked out?  Do you figure out that it's a certain type of progression (e.g. I-IV-I-V with two bars for each chord) for each of the sections?  If it's leads do you remember it as what kind of movement along a scale or other ways to "compress" what you need to remember?  Personally, I'm just starting to do this abstracting and it's hard but it will get easier the more I do it and not only help me remember stuff but help my theory knowledge too.<br><br>A good source that I've used for this is the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Practice-Revolution-Getting-results-between/dp/095819050X/">The Practice Revolution</a>.  It's a book geared towards music teachers but it has a lot of great ideas for practicing, memorization, etc. that an adult self-learner can use.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Hyperborea</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310431</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I forget stuff I make up, because I usually don&#039;t write it down, and I can&#039;t go Google it up!

 :lol:  :lol:  :mrgreen:]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I forget stuff I make up, because I usually don't write it down, and I can't go Google it up!

 :lol:  :lol:  :mrgreen:]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310427</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s age related. I&#039;m like most others. I&#039;ve got a whole stack of semi-organized and sorted chord sheets. I know I don&#039;t have but a handful memorized. What&#039;s worse, if I sit down and...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think it's age related. I'm like most others. I've got a whole stack of semi-organized and sorted chord sheets. I know I don't have but a handful memorized. What's worse, if I sit down and start to play, I have a hard time remembering the titles that I remember all the way through.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>rparker</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Song Retention</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/song-retention/paged/2/#post-310381</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Developing my ear and feeling for the logic and possibilities of music has become the goal for me now, rather than trying to rote learn stuff. Who cares if we take the high road or the low r...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Developing my ear and feeling for the logic and possibilities of music has become the goal for me now, rather than trying to rote learn stuff. Who cares if we take the high road or the low road, we still enjoy the view.....  :note1:  :note2:  :note1:  Chris

Great to hear that you've arrived, Chris!!! <br><br>Ya know, even those just starting out spend most of their time "learning". Sure, teaching is necessary...you absorb a chord/practice a related scale...then take to looking over sheet music and ka-chunking along following the chords over the lyrics.<br><br>Lots of that...but then you get to the point YOU'VE just reached and get to the "possibilities of music". THAT's where it's AT!<br><br>FEEL what you play...LISTEN to what each chord offers...suit your mood...then chase after it.<br><br>Wonderful, liberating instrument...<br><br>Cat]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
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