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									this is a wierd guitar - Opinions and Polls				            </title>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/this-is-a-wierd-guitar/#post-354555</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[if the guy&#039;s basic tone wasn&#039;t so horrible, it might have been more interesting.i have a fretless bass thinking it would free me up to microtones and all that stuff, but you just end up play...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[if the guy's basic tone wasn't so horrible, it might have been more interesting.<br><br>i have a fretless bass thinking it would free me up to microtones and all that stuff, but you just end up playing the same stuff you'd play normally.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/this-is-a-wierd-guitar/#post-354425</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Back in the LP days Todd Rundgren put one out with a cut simulating all the bad record artifacts on it. I had a hard time hearing them, because I was used to hearing that stuff.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Back in the LP days Todd Rundgren put one out with a cut simulating all the bad record artifacts on it. I had a hard time hearing them, because I was used to hearing that stuff.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Ricochet</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[of course I cannot argue with your opinion, but it&#039;s pretty hard to miss the added dissonance of equal-temperment tuning (&quot;normal&quot;), especially with distortion. as a metal guy, I would have ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[of course I cannot argue with your opinion, but it's pretty hard to miss the added dissonance of equal-temperment tuning ("normal"), especially with distortion. as a metal guy, I would have thought you'd appreciate the added tightness of harmonic-based tuning.

Don't know what to say, except I can't argue with what my ears are telling me. I did listen to the audio clips, and I can "tolerate" the sound of that tuning, but I certainty don't prefer it. Oh well, to each his own...

and I can't argue with your ears either -- it's your perception and opinion.<br><br>I used to manage codec (e.g., AAC, PAC, MP3) objective testing for a codec design group. Among the "unofficial" observations among the experts and program managers, were that people acclimate pretty quickly to what they hear, and many do not hear obvious distortions and artifacts (codec mistakes), even after training and in A/B comparo scenarios. and even among the expert listeners there were big differences in perception. that led us to use groups of expert listeners to probe as many dimensions (e.g. harmonic distortion, frequency modulation, transient distortion, imaging, freq response â€¦), because no one expert "heard it all." for music, the acclimatization and general fuzziness of perception can be big pluses, especially where equal-temperament tuning is involved. it works well enough and gives us incredible flexibility.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>gnease</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I guess we do it automatically as we bend those blue notes.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I guess we do it automatically as we bend those blue notes.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>tinsmith</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/this-is-a-wierd-guitar/#post-354363</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[of course I cannot argue with your opinion, but it&#039;s pretty hard to miss the added dissonance of equal-temperment tuning (&quot;normal&quot;), especially with distortion. as a metal guy, I would have ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[of course I cannot argue with your opinion, but it's pretty hard to miss the added dissonance of equal-temperment tuning ("normal"), especially with distortion. as a metal guy, I would have thought you'd appreciate the added tightness of harmonic-based tuning.

Don't know what to say, except I can't argue with what my ears are telling me. I did listen to the audio clips, and I can "tolerate" the sound of that tuning, but I certainty don't prefer it. Oh well, to each his own...]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>katmetal</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Can I get that with a scalloped fretboard?  :mrgreen:Seriously, though - I don&#039;t really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it&#039;s supp...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Can I get that with a scalloped fretboard?  :mrgreen:<br><br>Seriously, though - I don't really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it's <I>supposed </I>to sound that way.

of course I cannot argue with your opinion, but it's pretty hard to miss the added dissonance of equal-temperment tuning ("normal"), especially with distortion. as a metal guy, I would have thought you'd appreciate the added tightness of harmonic-based tuning.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>gnease</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Seriously, though - I don&#039;t really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it&#039;s supposed to sound that way.

Only because you grew up lis...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Seriously, though - I don't really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it's <I>supposed </I>to sound that way.

Only because you grew up listening to music in the equal temperament system. When the tuning system changed (it has multiple times) there were always those who didn't like the new one. Meantone might be the "best" overall but it has a big problem in that it is tuned for a single key only and when you switch keys you need to switch tuning.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Hyperborea</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Can I get that with a scalloped fretboard?  :mrgreen:Seriously, though - I don&#039;t really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it&#039;s supp...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Can I get that with a scalloped fretboard?  :mrgreen:<br><br>Seriously, though - I don't really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it's <I>supposed </I>to sound that way.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>katmetal</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think they call it &quot;Meantone&quot;.......there would a G#, as well as an Ab &amp; they would not be the same note.I Know a guy that plays a fretless guitar, with sometimes multiple slides. He u...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think they call it "Meantone".......there would a G#, as well as an Ab &amp; they would not be the same note.<br><br>I Know a guy that plays a fretless guitar, with sometimes multiple slides. He uses the Meantone system....I guess it's as old as music itself.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>tinsmith</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: this is a wierd guitar</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Interesting guitar, but I have enough trouble with the simplest?  I&#039;d go with bending the strings too, I use it as a cheat to get a note without having to change position and finding the rig...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Interesting guitar, but I have enough trouble with the simplest?  I'd go with bending the strings too, I use it as a cheat to get a note without having to change position and finding the right fret. :roll:<br><br>"If your playing is baloney, then wiggle and bend 'em like they're macaroni!"]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Blue Jay</dc:creator>
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