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									tuner-included metronome(tu80) vs regular tuner(tu12h)? - Opinions and Polls				            </title>
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                        <title>please help!!!!</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/tuner-included-metronometu80-vs-regular-tunertu12h/#post-217619</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 06:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[hi..i&#039;ve tried boss tu80...i&#039;m very satisfied with the tuner...great!!! but the metronome volume is very soft...n they don&#039;t have the headphone socket or even the volume control....n the man...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[hi..i've tried boss tu80...i'm very satisfied with the tuner...great!!! but the metronome volume is very soft...n they don't have the headphone socket or even the volume control....n the manual said that "the metronome sound will not be output"...is it means that the metronome sound will not come out trough the output socket ? if it is so,then how can i connect it to the stereo devices like my amp,or computer speaker,etc..?i've read some review n one of them said that he can do it..but how...?  would u figure it out for me?<br><br><br> or do you have more suggestion or any way so that i can amplify the metronome volume?<br><br>please help...need it badly for practising with my band....thx u <br><br>best regard,Jeansen :)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>jeansen</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: tuner-included metronome(tu80) vs regular tuner(tu12h)?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/tuner-included-metronometu80-vs-regular-tunertu12h/#post-215603</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Sorry to muddy the waters again.... but...I&#039;ve got a couple of different metronomes, and this is how I&#039;ve found them.Korg MA-30 Electronic metronome with a display screen that shows an &#039;arm&#039;...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Sorry to muddy the waters again.... but...<br><br>I've got a couple of different metronomes, and this is how I've found them.<br><br><B>Korg MA-30 </B><br><br>Electronic metronome with a display screen that shows an 'arm' or 'pointer' that swings backwards and forwards at whatever tempo you select, at various beats per bar. It also has a tuner that plays selectable (and adjustable) tones that you can tune to. I don't user the tuner function as I have other tuners I prefer, but I assume that it works OK.<br><br>For:<br><br>Small and light. Easy to slip into pocket or guitar case. Can be propped onto a music stand for viewing.  Volume control (not all the ones that I saw had this). Mute button, so it can be used with just the visual display and no sound at all. Can also be used with headphones (same small jack you'd find used on many computer headphones or similar). <br><br>Against:<br><br>Can seem to be not really gutsy enough to impose itself over the playing - depending on what you're playing and how well tuned your eyes and ears are of course.<br><br><B>Traditional wind up Metronome </B><br><br>I also have an old fashioned pyramid shaped wind up job. It never needs batteries, and has a great big arm that clangs from one side to the other at various speeds.<br><br>Against:<br><br>It's big, so not as easy to carry around. It's also a great way to make enemies of anybody in earshot.<br><br>For:<br><br>You just can't can't <B>miss</B> it. It will clang and clank over just about anything - and the bell at the start of each bar is way easier to pick than the tone change on the electronic version. The arm is of course also far bigger than its electronic cousin - so even from the corner of your eye (if you're reading music for instance) it's <B>there</B> in a way that the other one isn't.<br><br>I've never really grown to love the electronic one, although it clearly has its uses. So it might be worth trying out a few options before you buy and see how you get on with them.<br><br>Good hunting.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Chris]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: tuner-included metronome(tu80) vs regular tuner(tu12h)?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/tuner-included-metronometu80-vs-regular-tunertu12h/#post-215540</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[hello..thx u for the quick reply but how about my second question? is tu80 a metronome with an add on tuner? and if u just look at the features, what do you think a beginner like me should b...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[hello..thx u for the quick reply but how about my second question? is tu80 a metronome with an add on tuner? and if u just look at the features, what do you think a beginner like me should buy?the tu 80 or tm40?thx u]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>jeansen</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: tuner-included metronome(tu80) vs regular tuner(tu12h)?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/tuner-included-metronometu80-vs-regular-tunertu12h/#post-215538</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Usually, the &quot;dominant&quot; product is the one that has the features, whilst the secondary product is an &quot;add-on&quot;.A tuner with metronome will have all the major features put into the tuner, with...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Usually, the "dominant" product is the one that has the features, whilst the secondary product is an "add-on".<br>A tuner with metronome will have all the major features put into the tuner, with the metronome being an add-on.<br>A metronome with tuner will have all the features in the metronome, with the tuner as by-product. A metronome will offer a whole load of different key signature and rhythm options, which a tuner with metronome won't offer you.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>greybeard</dc:creator>
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                        <title>thx u</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/tuner-included-metronometu80-vs-regular-tunertu12h/#post-215536</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[hi..thx for the reply..yup..i&#039;m looking for a digital metronome n of course,i want a chromatic tuner..cause i really like to tune half steps down like almost rock guitarist out there..btw......]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[hi..thx for the reply..yup..i'm looking for a digital metronome n of course,i want a chromatic tuner..cause i really like to tune half steps down like almost rock guitarist out there..<br><br>btw....i'm quiet confuse..the difference between "a tuner with a built in metronome" n "a digital metronome with a chromatic tuner"...aren't they are just the same stuff? would you explain the difference to me with some product examples? how about tu 80?is it a "digital metronome with a cromatic tuner" or a "tuner with a built in metronome"?<a href="http://www.activemusician.com/item--EM.TU-80">http://www.activemusician.com/item--EM.TU-80</a><br><br><br>oh ya..i've just read some specs about korg tm40..<a href="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Korg-TM40-Digital-Tuner-Metronome?sku=210533">http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Korg-TM40-Digital-Tuner-Metronome?sku=210533</a><br><br>after seeing their specs. what would you suggest me to buy?tu 80 or tm40? could you post  the reason too..<br><br>if there are any other suggestion..i'll be very happy..<br><br>thx u<br><br>best regards,Jeansen :)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>jeansen</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: tuner-included metronome(tu80) vs regular tuner(tu12h)?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/tuner-included-metronometu80-vs-regular-tunertu12h/#post-215462</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t want to muddy the waters, but you may wish to consider a digital metronome.Most have a chromatic tuner, built-in and offer a greater selection of timing and rhythm options, than a tu...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I don't want to muddy the waters, but you may wish to consider a digital metronome.<br>Most have a chromatic tuner, built-in and offer a greater selection of timing and rhythm options, than a tuner, with a built-in metronome.<br>I also echo misanthrope's sentiment - don't buy a guitar tuner, get a chromatic one.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>greybeard</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: tuner-included metronome(tu80) vs regular tuner(tu12h)?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/tuner-included-metronometu80-vs-regular-tunertu12h/#post-215450</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know personally, but I don&#039;t see why they wouldn&#039;t be. I&#039;m only really posting to remind you to get a chromatic tuner, not a guitar tuner :)A guitar tuner will give you E, A, D, G an...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I don't know personally, but I don't see why they wouldn't be. I'm only really posting to remind you to get a chromatic tuner, not a guitar tuner :)<br><br>A guitar tuner will give you E, A, D, G and B, but chromatic tuner will give you every note. When you want to try alternate tunings or tune down half a step etc., you'll be glad you got a chromatic.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Misanthrope</dc:creator>
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                        <title>tuner-included metronome(tu80) vs regular tuner(tu12h)?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/tuner-included-metronometu80-vs-regular-tunertu12h/#post-22656</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[hello..just wanna ask your advice n opinion...i wanna buy a tuner n a metronome..and i&#039;ve heard n search a lot info about them..n i found that some brand made a tuner that also included a me...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[hello..just wanna ask your advice n opinion...i wanna buy a tuner n a metronome..and i've heard n search a lot info about them..n i found that some brand made a tuner that also included a metronome ( ex. boss tu 80)..what do you think about the tuner-metronome compared to the regular tuner? cause, actually, i am wondering if the tuner in a tuner-included metronome like boss tu 80 is as accurate as the regular tuner ( non included metronome ) like boss tu 12 h ? thx u ...<br> :)]]></content:encoded>
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