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                        <title>Re: Videos - Do you like learning from them?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/videos-do-you-like-learning-from-them/paged/2/#post-328707</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I like Siggi Merten&#039;s videos.  I&#039;ve learned a lot from them.  I think he overdoes the palm-muting, but he does make things very simple.  Great for beginners.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I like Siggi Merten's videos.  I've learned a lot from them.  I think he overdoes the palm-muting, but he does make things very simple.  Great for beginners.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Minotaur</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Videos - Do you like learning from them?</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/videos-do-you-like-learning-from-them/paged/2/#post-328698</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 11:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I love them ...

Hi Trev,Did you ever use any of Kirk Lorange&#039;s videos? They looked to be pretty well filmed.  I&#039;ve haven&#039;t been to his site for a while, but last time I looked he was making...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I love them ...

Hi Trev,<br><br>Did you ever use any of Kirk Lorange's videos? They looked to be pretty well filmed.  I've haven't been to his site for a while, but last time I looked he was making some lessons available for free and charging a fairly small fee for access to more. That looked like an interesting business model. Do you know how it went for him?  Hard to judge whether people will pay for online stuff -even though it's fairly priced - when the internet mentality is often based around grabbing free stuff. <br><br>Things seem to be changing though, and paying either per unit or by monthly subscriptions seems a lot more common now. I guess,like anything else, it takes time to grow your reputation and customer base.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Chris]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 10:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I love them ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I love them ...]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>BarnaBus RoX</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Videos - Do you like learning from them?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[....I noticed that my son who also plays guitar, (14 years old), prefers videos. Maybe that&#039;s the new generation&#039;s preference? ...

I&#039;m 60 and much prefer videos so it&#039;s nice to know  I&#039;m &#039;i...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[....I noticed that my son who also plays guitar, (14 years old), prefers videos. Maybe that's the <I>new</I> generation's preference? ...

I'm 60 and much prefer videos so it's nice to know  I'm 'in the groove' (and I guess I destroyed the illusion by using a 60's term?  :D ).]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>BluezOldy</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Videos - Do you like learning from them?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a video/printed material guy myself.

I&#039;m the same. I like vanderbilly.com and youtube, but also like tabs. I noticed that my son who also plays guitar, (14 years old), prefers videos. M...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm a video/printed material guy myself.

I'm the same. I like vanderbilly.com and youtube, but also like tabs. <br><br>I noticed that my son who also plays guitar, (14 years old), prefers videos. Maybe that's the <I>new</I> generation's preference? <br><br>It would be nice to see GN start to do videos. C'mon, it's the 21st century!  :P]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Dan T.</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Videos - Do you like learning from them?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve tried about everything.  When I first picked up the guitar to seriously learn I did so from a video, and it was very helpful to me.  I also took lessons for two years and worked through...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I've tried about everything.  When I first picked up the guitar to seriously learn I did so from a video, and it was very helpful to me.  I also took lessons for two years and worked through a few instructional books.  Haven't used any videos since that first one, but I am seriously considering going back to video instruction in the near future.<br><br>I'm just finishing up a year of voice lessons, and I'm not intending to renew for another semester.  Two reasons for that.  Primarily, i feel like after a year I've learned what I needed to as far as voice for right now.  Secondly, I'm going to be doing a bit more busines travel over the next year, which makes lessons with a teacher impractical.  However, if you do travel some like me, video seems to be an excellent format for instruction due to the portability.  I can carry a DVD and a personal player, or if the lessons are online I just need a laptop and an Internet connection.<br><br>I'm considering the Collins DVD that david reviewed on this website, and I tink I will also try out sone of the sample lessons available on jamplay to see if I like them.  Then I might take the plunge there. $139 a year is dirt cheap compared to private lessons!]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Rum Runner</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Videos - Do you like learning from them?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a video/printed material guy myself.I enjoy using both, and I like the fact that if I want to look at something that&#039;s&#039; in the video I don&#039;t have to have a computer/DVD player with me if...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm a video/printed material guy myself.<br><br>I enjoy using both, and I like the fact that if I want to look at something that's' in the video I don't have to have a computer/DVD player with me if I have the printed material that goes along with it.<br><br>Definately pros and cons to both, but I use Video/Printed material.<br><br>I've actually used Audio only CD's with the explanations, but that was about the equivalent to watching paint dry.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Videos - Do you like learning from them?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 07:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Seems to me there are many more not-so-good ones than there are good ones.  I agree with you that when they&#039;re good, they can be very very good. The key, I think, is communication, and how w...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Seems to me there are many more not-so-good ones than there are good ones.  I agree with you that when they're good, they can be very very good. <br><br>The key, I think, is communication, and how well the instructor does it.  

I think you've nailed it there.  :) <br><br>Initially I saw of lot of fairly crummy videos online. Some were just an 'Every dog having his day' type of thing (and why not, I guess....) and some were - as you suggested - quite professional in some aspects but still either poorly communicated or just not filmed in a way that let you see all that you need to. But when I finally did see some good ones, it really was both an eye opener and an ear opener.   <br><br>Like you, I've had some great books and some really poor ones too, and the same applied to any audio-visual material I've seen. Some of the early stuff seemed to be just limp rehashes of somebody's existing written material with some pictures and a video or two thrown in, and slapped on a CD. But the degree of sophistication appears to have lifted considerably since then, and the whole area is maturing into something that looks really useful.  <br><br>I'd certainly love to see some videos of David's lessons too, but it's probably a lot to ask of somebody who already provides so much here for free.  In theory he could probably make and sell some DVDs too, but it's easy enough to spend out a hefty chunk of time and money on production costs, and not always so easy to get it all back again in sales. Still, who knows, maybe he's already given it some consideration? There may also be others here who would be willing and able to contribute content to a Youtube site?<br>But almost always with the DVDs, I find I like to have printed supporting materials. So I voted: "Excellent for demonstrating some aspects, but I like written support too."

That was my pick too.  :) <br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Chris]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Videos - Do you like learning from them?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Apart from enjoying the feeling of having a friendly musician chatting to me, I could clearly see what the chord changes were, what additional fingering was being done, and what the right ha...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Apart from enjoying the feeling of having a friendly musician chatting to me, I could clearly see what the chord changes were, what additional fingering was being done, and what the right hand was up to as well. It was far better than trying to work all that out from text, partly because there are always several options with a guitar. No matter how clear the writer thinks they've been there's always information missing, or more than one interpretation possible. So there's a regular feeling of "Am I actually getting this wrong, or is this just another genuinely tough aspect that I need to practice for a few weeks?"... :?<br><br>With the good video I could get a whole lot of useful information both quickly and accurately, but there were a couple of other things that were useful too. Apart from being able to see almost immediately whether the arrangement was going to be easy for me or hard, I could feel confident that if I did need to put a lot of hours in then at least I could be confident that I wasn't wasting time practising a misunderstanding...<br><br>The other thing, which is harder to define, was that by watching the player's hands and listening at the same time, I could actually pick up really good information about the whole â€˜feel' of the piece and how they were achieving it. Often it's that hard to describe â€˜soul' or â€˜heart' of a piece of music that you can't always nail just by playing the notes in the right order. Being able to see the way the player's hands and body were working seemed to get across more than just the positions or the sounds, at least it did for me anyway.


Seems to me there are many more not-so-good ones than there are good ones.  I agree with you that when they're good, they can be very very good. <br><br>The key, I think, is communication, and how well the instructor does it.  I feel that way about the text+MP3 Guitar Noise lessons I've used - David Hodge especially does a great job communicating the <I>why</I> as well as the <I>how to</I>.  He gets good mileage from a little bit of theory in each lesson.  <br><br>Would the GN lessons translate well to video?  I'm sure they would.  Would they be improved if they were on video?  Possibly, and your experience with other video lessons makes the point.  Would everyone like them better?  Possibly not, but you can't please everyone.<br><br>I have some instructional DVDs that I think are great;  I've had some that I thought were terrible.  I have some instructional books that I really like; I've had some that weren't very helpful.  Same thing always - the instructor's (writer's) ability to communicate effectively is what makes them work or not.   <br><br>But almost always with the DVDs, I find I like to have printed supporting materials.  So I voted:  "Excellent for demonstrating some aspects, but I like written support too."]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/opinions-and-polls/">Opinions and Polls</category>                        <dc:creator>Gabba Gabba Hey</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 06:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve switched my learning almost fully to video instruction As a self-learner it&#039;s leaves guitar books for dead although I have a large library of these and still use them.

Thanks very much...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I've switched my learning almost fully to video instruction <br><br>As a self-learner it's leaves guitar books for dead although I have a large library of these and still use them.<br>

Thanks very much for that post mate. Most interesting - that sounds just the sort of balance that I'd like too.  :D <br><br>I've also been tossing up with subscribing to a piano course in that way. I just need to sort out payment options. I'm doggedly old fashioned and don't even have a credit card, so I'll have to bite the bullet and get a debit card or a Paypal thing or whatever one uses now...<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Chris]]></content:encoded>
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