https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/ Guitar Noise Discussion Board en-US Thu, 04 Jun 2026 07:03:06 +0000 wpForo 60 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/paged/2/#post-300171 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:26:35 +0000 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH8-lQ9CeyI]]> Singing rparker https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/paged/2/#post-300171 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/paged/2/#post-299789 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:35:56 +0000
I also don't see why singing softly to oneself would be damaging--either in terms of vocal health or in terms of vocal quality. I try to sing softly to myself--it's hard!]]> Singing Jersey Jack https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/paged/2/#post-299789 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/paged/2/#post-299681 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:10:42 +0000
In the meantime I'm recording a few guitar tracks so I can concentrate on singing when it comes to that point rather than flicking between tabs and lyrics every few minutes!

A couple of things I want to clarify though; I've heard that it's bad to sing along to anyone else's singing and this can cause problems and that it's also not very good to sing quietly to yourself. Any truth to those?]]> Singing TheWalrus https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/paged/2/#post-299681 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-299378 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:35:51 +0000
As far as criticism: You're clearly at an early stage in the process, and it wouldn't make much sense to start unpacking everything. The initial result is good, very good, but it's difficult to assess your voice fully because some of the problems you're having are related to the guitar.

There is no "eureka" moment, I'm afraid! I truly wish there were. Learning to sing is rather more difficult than learning to play the guitar. Your body is your instrument, and this means not only muscles but emotions. The wood and steel of a guitar are always in the same mood, so a technique learned on guitar is usually right there for you when you next pick up the guitar. Not so the voice. Here it's two steps forward, one step back, over and over again. :cry: One does make progress over time, but not without regularly circling back to bad places.

At least that's been my experience.]]> Singing Jersey Jack https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-299378 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-299339 Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:55:32 +0000
Listening back I have identified a few personal faults though; the main one being that I didn't really know the song well enough, I learned both the guitar and vocal parts as I was recording them, I don't think I was comfortable enough with the song. I was slightly over stretching in terms of trying to generate volume as well. I also think that I was subconsciously trying to imitate Gilmour's accent which along with the volume thing does seem to have affected my voice.

I do have a more immediate problem though; a few days before recording this I was getting used to the mic and stuff but I hurt my throat pretty badly. The back of my throat was very raw; I barely spoke for three days afterwards and it healed enough for me to record Wish You Were Here. However I still feel like there is a lump at the back of my throat that makes me feel like I'm constantly trying to swallow something. It also feels a little dry and I think I can see a pinkish grey lump which might be the problem. Any idea how long this might take to fully heal and how can I prevent it happening in the future?

Cheers

Mike]]> Singing TheWalrus https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-299339 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-298607 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:55:32 +0000
One observation: I agree that you need to let go a bit. Where your singing falters, your voice sounds tense, constrained. But looseness shouldn''t always equate to power. I think your volume is just right for the song, and if you are aiming to let go in the sense of turning up the volume, I think that would be a mistake.

I'm sensitive to this issue because it has become huge for me lately. I have a lot of power/volume, and in fact I tend to bellow. I've only recently realized how damaging this is to my tone! I'm so insecure about hitting/holding a note, that I push it out violently--it sounds strained, tense, and LOUD!

Thus, for me at least, loosening up and letting go is learning how to sing softly. It is finding my natural voice, which is much closer to speaking than to shouting.

And, you know, we have microphones! 8)]]> Singing Jersey Jack https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-298607 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-298574 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:43:29 +0000 I can't sing but that's one of those songs that tempts me and makes me regret that I can't.
Again, you're ahead of the game in that you are hitting the notes.
You did a good job.
And again, I'm going to say that what you need is experience and practice to get the confidence.
That's what you were saying about "fighting to let go". So you already know that I guess.
I'd like to hear you let go.
I can't reach out through the Internet and bite you.
And if you realized how many people just don't care anyway . . . .
So what do you have to lose?
The thing about that particular song is the ending notes. The wavering slides from one note to another make it unique.
You did a job job on some of those. Others you pooped out on.
Maybe that's what you were talking about when you felt you couldn't let go.
Go for it, dood.

Something that comes to mind: When I was in elementary school, we were learning World History and the topic was on ancient Greece. One person of note was a famous orator . . . can't remember his name . . . but what I remember was that to train his voice, he would walk down to the seashore and try to talk above the waves crashing against the rocks. Now, as kids, we took that information and thought, that's pretty clever. Today, if you saw some guy shouting at the sea, you would tell your kids to stay away from that man. They probably did back then too.
So, the moral? I don't know. Maybe if you're going to be good at something be willing to be perceived as kooky?
And have fun with it. I mean, you gotta laugh.
Anyway, the circumstances and places where you can "let go" are restricting.
So, maybe just in your bedroom and let 'er rip until someone starts banging on the walls or cries "Mercy!"]]> Singing KR2 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-298574 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-298515 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 04:14:13 +0000
My main thing is still getting power; I think my singing comes across as a little half hearted because of it and I feel like I'm fighting my subconscious to let go. I've got a couple of other things but I don't want to taint your critiques.

So here you go…

http://www.zshare.net/audio/14373228bb442bfd/]]> Singing TheWalrus https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-298515 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-297401 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:16:20 +0000 House of the Rising Sun?
You do the vocals and I'll do the guitar.
Here's Robert Zimmerman singing it:
House of the Rising Sun
Here's a group called Frigid Pink:
House of the Rising Sun]]> Singing KR2 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-297401 https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-297383 Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:01:28 +0000

Anyway, I'm taking onboard all your advice and although I'm stuck with the kit I've got I've got it set up much better now and like I said I've have a few days on my own to take advantage of. I'm recording a couple of tracks to sing over and I might a do a few things a cappella.

Does anyone have any ideas for a song that would give good representation of my singing ability? Preferably something that can be sung a cappella.

Also does anyone know of a good source of songs sans vocals?

Cheers again]]> Singing TheWalrus https://guitarnoise.forum/singing/taking-the-plunge-and-posting-my-singing/#post-297383