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Topic starter
18/10/2006 3:00 pm
I curious if anyone here or if you know of any famous players who have just compleatly shifted to slide, not so much lap steel but either acoustic or electric.....I would assume that in doing so your regular guitar skills would suffer...any input would be helpful.
Scott
I havn't found my tone yet, and I have no mojo....but I'm working on it :)
18/10/2006 3:04 pm
It seems unlikely that anyone would become an exclusive slide player though some are predominantly slide players on their lead styles. George Harrison comes to mind as a guitarist whose later lead style is predominantly slide though he'd only played a bit of slide during his Beatle years.
Well we all shine on--like the moon and the stars and the sun.
-- John Lennon
18/10/2006 3:51 pm
I would assume that in doing so your regular guitar skills would suffer...
Both yes and no.... I focused entirely on lap style for several years, only picking up my guitar when I got paid to do it or needed it to write music, after playing guitar for aprox 30 years. When I picked it up again I found that while my motor skills had suffered, my guitar playing had matured on a musical level. What the lap style playing had brought to my guitar playing was a much stronger sense of melody, I got rid of a lot of my old cliches, and all in all my "new" playing was more economic and somewhat "deeper". While I still consider lap style playing to be my main focus I enjoy my regular guitar playing a lot more now than I used to do. Highly recommended if you're tired of your old cliches.... ;)
Steinar
18/10/2006 4:42 pm
my experience is very similar to Steinars.
the plus side of playing lap slide in open tunings and going back to standard tuning guitar is that my ears and eyes see the standard fretboard in a different way: I began playing more two and three note harmonies; I began to play the standard fretboard less tenuosly because I understood the notes and layout better: my ears began to hear the notes before I saw them...that one has me estatic.
I can jump back and forth easily now.
to be honest I still make mistakes .
some days I am a hunter.
some days Im a marksman.
at any nday Im happier becuase Ive tried other instruments.
boils down to challenge and groweth.
wouldnt have it any other way.
18/10/2006 5:22 pm
I was thinking of getting a 2-string bass at one point for the same reason; maybe 1-string. Just get a Rondo J-bass or something and take 3 strings off and leave just the one. Lots of other bassists are going to 6, 7, 9, 11 string basses, but that makes you 'think' across the fretboard rather than along its length. Good for licks and runs, but melody is very rarely a 'scale' or a 'riff' or a 'run.'
Lap steel showed me that, and like others have said, it carries over into other instruments.
18/10/2006 6:11 pm
...plus, he's left-handed which makes it worse for me ;)
Is his playing any different because of it?
Topic starter
18/10/2006 7:30 pm
so the upside is it can make your playing more musical....?
That makes sense to me, thanks for the imput slide is definitly an area I'm gonna explore.
Scott
I havn't found my tone yet, and I have no mojo....but I'm working on it :)
19/10/2006 10:45 am
so the upside is it can make your playing more musical....?
That makes sense to me, thanks for the imput slide is definitly an area I'm gonna explore.
Scott
all right!
we turned another one. :D
19/10/2006 1:02 pm
I haven't played without a slide on a finger for several years.
"A cheerful heart is good medicine."
Topic starter
19/10/2006 1:20 pm
I haven't played without a slide on a finger for several years.
Really? would you mind expanding on that a bit?
Anyone have any opinions on electric slide vs. acoustic slide?
Scott
I havn't found my tone yet, and I have no mojo....but I'm working on it :)
19/10/2006 1:51 pm
I haven't played without a slide on a finger for several years.
...Anyone have any opinions on electric slide vs. acoustic slide?
Scott
My opinion is that it shouldn't be 'electric slide "vs." acoustic slide'. Sure they're slightly different, but it should be "and".
Get into both. Start on one, then include the other ;)
19/10/2006 1:58 pm
Really? would you mind expanding on that a bit?How? That's just what I like doing. I don't think of myself as a "guitarist," but as a "slide guitarist."
"A cheerful heart is good medicine."
19/10/2006 2:36 pm
Before I got serious about lap steel I often played with a bottleneck on my pinky and did slide solos in standard tuning while I played chords/riffs with my fingers. In a band setting I often limit the chords to triads anyway, so I don't take up too much space, so I could often get away with having the slide on my pinky. It depends on the material of course...
Here's an old photo that demonstrates this (it's a glass bottleneck so it's a bit hard to see):
Steinar
19/10/2006 2:44 pm
I play alot of slide. 99% lap style. it can be a lap steel guitar or my acoustic.
Ive tried bottleneck slide but cant manage it very well. too much clacking. I kow it is because I havent really worked on it.
playing lap style with any guitar (electric and acoustic) suits me better.
I dont need a raised nut either; I guess Ive a knack or soft touch.
now I have a mission: to stand up and play my strat with a finger slide.
nice boat S. good old days?
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