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									SSG Week 46 - Sunday Songwriters Group				            </title>
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                        <title>RE: SSG Week 46</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-week-46/#post-127746</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[People like me too?   :P 
and people like manontheside too :D]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[People like me too?   :P 
and people like manontheside too :D]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/">Sunday Songwriters Group</category>                        <dc:creator>pbee</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Mic shopping</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[My friend and I are going to hit the road today, and go find a mic and do some recording. If  I change the lyrics (minimally most likely) I will post them with the mp3 and kill two birds wit...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[My friend and I are going to hit the road today, and go find a mic and do some recording. If  I change the lyrics (minimally most likely) I will post them with the mp3 and kill two birds with one stone. <br>Keep Jammin :-D And I believe I can make this all work.... but only time will tell.<br><br>Thx all &amp; keep jammin,<br>Dave]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/">Sunday Songwriters Group</category>                        <dc:creator>Dduckett</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: SSG Week 46</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-week-46/#post-127665</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[People like Jack Johnson manage to to get lots of words into small musical spaces

People like me too?  :PI think Jason Mraz would be a nice stop if you want to have that gargantuan amount o...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[People like Jack Johnson manage to to get lots of words into small musical spaces

People like me too?  :P<br><br>I think Jason Mraz would be a nice stop if you want to have that gargantuan amount of syllables that still flows neatly. Usually takes some rewriting though, if you want it to match perfectly. <br><br>But on the other side, I don't know what you have planned for this yet, IMO this doesn't look like the typical song for that kind of singing (but you're welcome to prove me wrong :))<br><br>Go buy a mic, I'm excited about this and want to hear!  :)]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: SSG Week 46</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hey DD,
 I ponder whether to fix it or not because that sort of lengthened syllables could create something very interesting
you absolutely right. Im not sure it needs fixing either, I would...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey DD,
 I ponder whether to fix it or not because that sort of lengthened syllables could create something <B>very interesting</B>
you absolutely right. Im not sure it needs fixing either, I would really be interested to see what you can do with it. People like Jack Johnson manage to to get lots of words into small musical spaces, so it can certainly be done. I look foward to hearing what ever you come up with if you decide to record a demo.<br>cheers<br>pb]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: SSG Week 46</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-week-46/#post-127645</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 11:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[As for how robust am I.... Anything goes... you can flail on it, love it, present ideas, tell me why it won&#039;t work, or anything. I understand that people all have opinions or ideas, and I pr...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[As for how robust am I.... Anything goes... you can flail on it, love it, present ideas, tell me why it won't work, or anything. I understand that people all have opinions or ideas, and I present mine freely, and I believe you should too, and I don't mind what you all think. Be heavy on whatever you think is appropriate.

Good for you!  :D <br><br>OK. I thought the theme was great. Definitely different from usual first songs here, which tend to be very focused on internal issues and various self struggles. You took a strong and original feeling and weren't afraid to run with it.  :) <br><br>I also though it started well. If I were to suggest an improvement it would be to tidy up verses 2 and 3 as they seemed to get a bit out of shape and also a wee bit top heavy with imagery. The last line was also a bit on the clunky side.  Just tidying really.  8)<br><br>Because we have to crank out a new song every week we don't alway get to complete the editing and re-writing.  But it's interesting to keep the songs and revisit them a few weeks down the track when they've "gone cold" in your mind. Sometimes you see them in a different light. Something you thought came through seems a lot less obvious, or some new angle hits you.<br><br>I'm sure you'll soon have a box full.   8)  Good start. Hope to see more from you. Good luck finding a way to record.<br><br>Cheers, Chris.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/">Sunday Songwriters Group</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: SSG Week 46</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-week-46/#post-127631</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hey DD, sorry I dont know the brand name ( I can find out tomorrow if you wish) but my local music shop had a decent vocal/instument mic for 36 bucks.   I bet you can find one in your area i...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey DD, sorry I dont know the brand name ( I can find out tomorrow if you wish) but my local music shop had a decent vocal/instument mic for 36 bucks.   I bet you can find one in your area if it suits you needs.<br><br>Geoo]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: SSG Week 46</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-week-46/#post-127630</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Wow. I really liked this piece. This is exactly how I feel about music. Phenomenal  :D . (This is my opinion. others can disagree with me if they feel so.) Welcome to the forum! I really wan...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Wow. I really liked this piece. This is exactly how I feel about music. Phenomenal  :D . (This is my opinion. others can disagree with me if they feel so.) <br><br>Welcome to the forum! I really want to see you posting more here. I'm suprised to see that your first song was for the assingment! I don't see much here. Anyway, for your first song, it was awesome. Keep it up.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Good feedback :-D</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-week-46/#post-127618</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 06:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The feeback here I have to say is fantastic. I like how quickly everyone jumps in because I feel at home here. Let me take everything here in order first pbee.... we do see things different ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The feeback here I have to say is fantastic. I like how quickly everyone jumps in because I feel at home here. Let me take everything here in order first pbee.... we do see things different I didn't notice how it ended up looking.... I didn't notice the way it ended up.... I ponder whether to fix it or not because that sort of lengthened syllables could create something very interesting (or disaster but lets think confidentally :-D). About the meaning behind the song it has to do with a few things I have observed in the world. As I recall back in the day there was a group called the Dieists.. they believed that God made the world, and left it and it worked perfectly. I in my soul am Christian, but at the same time this belief makes a lot of sense to me, and I think that humans are very flawed, and that when compared to nature they have no power. It's a kind of humans vs. the world theme. I hope that clears it up too much. You are NOT too critical at all! It is all fine, and the ideas let me know what all to fix. I really appreciate the feedback... what would make me feel bad is none at all lol, but it happens sometimes. Karla as with pbee you both make an interesting point, and it is very true that hardly any work is good without the proper effort and time put into it. On to geoo... I believe that you are correct when I look at the piece I notice that I focused more on the idea than the musical structure. Yet however I believe I have an idea that will work for it, but this involves 2 guitars I have a friend who also has one. It's gonna be hard to pull off and syncronize, and the song won't be very formed, but like the word painting of blue sky it will be very free. Still a central melody with additions as the song progresses could work. Experimentation would be the best. And on to Chris_C...  I can record mp3's once I get the money for a mic because my friend has recording stuff, but no access to a mic so I will definitely work on getting it up here. I am going to give you an idea... this weekend I will have time to work more on it, and either balance it or find a way to make it work. As for how robust am I.... Anything goes... you can flail on it, love it, present ideas, tell me why it won't work, or anything. I understand that people all have opinions or ideas, and I present mine freely, and I believe you should too, and I don't mind what you all think. Be heavy on whatever you think is appropriate. Thanks so much for the feedback all... I will get this going :-D. Keep on writin, jammin, and playin. (P.S. I am probably going to by a cheapo mic tommorow I need a good one though maybe 20-40 bucks my friend has good recording stuff but no good mic any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :-) I may also post this somewhere else.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/">Sunday Songwriters Group</category>                        <dc:creator>Dduckett</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: SSG Week 46</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-week-46/#post-127359</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi Dave and welcome to SSG,A couple of questions:1.  Any chance that you can record an mp3 to show us how you intend this to work musically?  Or maybe give us some other clues about how you ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Dave and welcome to SSG,<br><br>A couple of questions:<br><br>1.  Any chance that you can record an mp3 to show us how you intend this to work musically?  Or maybe give us some other clues about how you intend singing that "triangle" and what chords, tempo, or whatever? You don't need fancy recording gear, a quick and dirty job through a basic computer sound card can be good enough to get the ideas across.<br><br>2. How robust are you? Serious question. Many beginners arrive here with a first songs and say "what do you think?" or "all constructive criticism welcome", but when it comes it's obvious that what they really meant was "praise only please".  :D <br><br>So what praise/criticism are you looking for? 50/50  90/10, anything goes, or...??<br><br>I can see some good things in your song, and some stuff that I think could be improved on, but I don't want to be too heavy or too light. <br><br>We're all walking the same road here, but the regulars all want (and expect) to have flaws or weaknesses pointed out. We all want honest reactions, even if they don't line up with what we thought about our songs. Where are you at in that respect?<br><br>Cheers, Chris.<br><br>EDIT: You also might like to check out the many articles here on songwriting <a href="https://www.guitarnoise.com/songwriting.php">Songwriting articles on Guitarnoise</a><br><br>This one, by our esteemed moderator Nick Torres, is a good start:<br><a href="https://www.guitarnoise.com/article.php?id=288">Songwriting for Beginners by Nick</a>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/">Sunday Songwriters Group</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: SSG Week 46</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-week-46/#post-127333</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hey there Ducket.  Nice first post!!To me, what is important in song writing is the ability to take a concept and weave it into words that first make people perk up, take notice a little, an...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey there Ducket.  Nice first post!!<br><br>To me, what is important in song writing is the ability to take a concept and weave it into words that first make people perk up, take notice a little, and maybe get that "Hummm"  kind of feeling like if they had never really thought of it that way.  They also need to walk away with it thinking, "Ya know I feel that way"<br><br>Your song does both for me.  Never really thought of the world as a big musical score, but now that you mention it... It sure does.<br><br>The words we use to mesh that together can be worked out.  As Pbee pointed out with the lengthening of syllables.  But on that note, your really going to be the only person that can say if the lyrics fit.  There are some musicians that can just ramble on and on in a sentence and you would look at the line thinking "AHH that will never work"  but somehow they squeeze it all in there and it just seems to fit somehow.  John Mayer and D Matthews comes to mind.  But ya, usually it should be pretty close to the same amount of syllables.<br><br>Keep up the great work.  Its good to see yet another fresh, humm, face?<br><br>By the way.. I am a feely kind of guy (not visual).  In fact, my ex wife used to say that because I am a sensitive feely emotional kind of guy, that I was more woman that she was.  Her words.. not mine.<br><br>Geoo]]></content:encoded>
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