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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 04:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[if you are worried about the repetitiveness and movement, it could be helped with building it in strength a little bit with a few more instruments if that&#039;s possible - preferable ones with d...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[if you are worried about the repetitiveness and movement, it could be helped with building it in strength a little bit with a few more instruments if that's possible - preferable ones with deep meloncholy sounds (not too many, should be kept simple).  I would give in to a little bit of musical chaos somewhere about 3/4 of the way through the song.  Given the topic, though, I can understand the length and repetitive nature if someone is having difficulty keeping to a train of thought.  I could easily see having two versions of this song, a short "radio cut" and something longer.<br><br>Jeremy]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[After listening to this,David, two things struck me immediately:1 - it&#039;s a bit repetitive for a song of such length, and 2 - it is, however, beautifully arranged and put together.I&#039;d look on...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[After listening to this,David, two things struck me immediately:<br><br>1 - it's a bit repetitive for a song of such length, and <br><br>2 - it is, however, beautifully arranged and put together.<br><br>I'd look on this as a work in progress - you admit yourself it needs a little attention and polishing, not to mention finding the time to do so! But I've got the feeling when this is finished I might be listening to something a bit special.....<br><br>OK, I'd just like to add a personal touch - this is so reminiscent of my mother it's, well a bit spooky....<br><br>About 12 years ago, I moved in with her - with my daughter in tow - to try and keep the social services from putting her in a home. She was fit and healthy enough - it was just that her memory was going. This line....<br><br>"The "where's my keys my coat my ring"".....<br><br>kind of brought everything flooding back. One of the first things that happened when we moved in...she'd been left  a ring - a beautiful solitaire Diamond, worth a lot of money - that she couldn't find. She didn't wear it often, but always wore it for church on Sundays. Anyway, for weeks she kept asking me and Kayleigh if we'd seen this ring - about every 10 minutes, on average. After a few weeks the ring finally turned up....in the most unlikely of places. She kept a bowl of meat juices in the fridge - "the fat on top'll keep it from going off," she used to say - and I got it out to melt the fat one sunday. There, below the layer of beef fat, was....the ring. She must have taken it off, put it on the windowsill above the bowl, where it had got knocked off by accident....and been there for weeks, till the next time we needed the beef fat/juices.<br><br>So if nothing else, you certainly brought back some memories for me....although it wasn't funny those few weeks, we all laughed about it afterwards. One of the last good memories I have of her, so thanks for that! I'm really looking forward to the finished song.<br><br> :D  :D  :D <br><br>Vic]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
                        <link>https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg-year-7-week-19-dhodge/#post-323084</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the replies and suggestions. It&#039;s definitely too long and part of that (as well as why the guitar is fairly monotonous) is that I was working through a lot of piecing things toget...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks for the replies and suggestions. <br><br>It's definitely too long and part of that (as well as why the guitar is fairly monotonous) is that I was working through a lot of piecing things together on the fly. As I mentioned, spare time is a bit of a commodity these days so I only had a half-hour to throw the recording together and get it online. Not optimal and shows in the work.<br><br>Ken's right about the difference between "a start" and "the start." I was trying to go with a stream of consciousness (train of thought) feel and using one word in a previous line to play off of the following line is one way of doing that. <br><br>Dylan, I like the suggestion for "always" and will work that in.<br><br>James, on the second pass I thought that leaving out the "but I remember what day it is" might infere that he's also now forgotten that as well. Leaving out lines and then mixing up others was meant to also reflect a deteriorating mental condition. <br><br>Obviously this needs more work, not to mention time and care. The more critiques, hopefully the better the next version will be. Thank you all for making the time to listen and write.<br><br>Oh, and Ken, I think there are a number of us exhibiting "the start."   :wink: <br><br>Peace]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I must have interpreted the words differently because I don&#039;t agree with changing the first verse&quot;a start&quot; in the first verse is not talking about the &quot;start&quot; in the second verse.&quot;A start&quot; m...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I must have interpreted the words differently because I don't agree with changing the first verse<br><br>"a start" in the first verse is not talking about the "start" in the second verse.<br><br>"A start" means "at least I know what day it is" . . . that's a good start . . . for not being hopelessly forgetful.<br><br>The "start" in the second verse begins describing the initial signs of dementia or Alzheimers . . . <br>or losing one's mind . . . forgetting "the little things" . . . the start of something bad.<br>I forgot my daughter's name today<br>But I know what day it is<br>And that's a start<br><br>It starts with the little things<br>It's always the little things

That's the way I interpreted it . . . but I'm probably exhibiting the "start".<br><br>KR2]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Dave,Sounding good.   :D  I really like the arpeggios....good match of music and content.  I really like the ping-pong voices.  I would have liked them bumped up a bit in the mix to create m...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Dave,<br><br>Sounding good.   :D  I really like the arpeggios....good match of music and content.  I really like the ping-pong voices.  I would have liked them bumped up a bit in the mix to create more of the confusion for the listener.<br><br>Suggestions:<br>1<br>You have some great ideas...simple and clear...but so much repetition makes the song a bit on the long side...maybe you can be a bit more selective on what is repeated to cut it down a bit <br>2<br>Consider backing off even more on the gtr in a couple sections down to 1, 2, or 3 notes...it feels like it could use a bit more contrast....the notes are changing, but the arpeggio style and tempo are the same throughout....maybe even some false starts or "take twos" ....like a gtr player forgetting what comes next...or even dropping to acapella.<br>3<br>If you are going to repeat the vs1, how about mixing it up to fit the character...for example:<br>FIRST TIME<br>I forgot my daughter's name today<br>But I know what day it is<br>And that's the start<br><br>SECOND TIME<br>I forgot what day it is today <br>But I know my daughter's name <br>And that's the start<br><br>Thanks for sharing and the MP3<br><br>James]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hey DaveA very haunting song and superbly put together, as we would expect of course.. :wink: Just singing it through myself, here&#039;s a couple of changes that make if flow better for me...I f...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey Dave<br><br>A very haunting song and superbly put together, as we would expect of course.. :wink: <br><br>Just singing it through myself, here's a couple of changes that make if flow better for me...<br><br>I forgot my daughter's name today<br>But I know what day it is<br>And that's <B>the</B> start<br><br>It starts with the little things<br><B>It always is</B> the little things<br>The "where's my keys my coat my ring"<br>The little things will tell you something's wrong<br>That this train of thought has gone<br><br>The rest is brilliant...<br><br>Rock on!<br>D  8)]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a song about aging, dementia, and death. All very contemprary topics. I like the layered vocals and guitar playing. I need to do some lessons.Thanks,Ernie]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[It's a song about aging, dementia, and death. All very contemprary topics. I like the layered vocals and guitar playing. I need to do some lessons.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Ernie]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It&#039;s good stuff David, a complete unloading of a feeling of total despair. A :-)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[It's good stuff David, a complete unloading of a feeling of total despair. <br><br><br>A :-)]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: SSG Year 7 Week 19 - dhodge</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[That&#039;s kind of spooky . . .Kind of an Arjen/Simon and Garfunkel collaboration . . . type of song.Beautiful overlapping tracks.Thanks, David.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[That's kind of spooky . . .<br>Kind of an Arjen/Simon and Garfunkel collaboration . . . type of song.<br>Beautiful overlapping tracks.<br>Thanks, David.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Still trying to figure out how this got made with everything else that&#039;s going on. But it did, so here you go.For those of you with good memories, you might recognize the chorus line as my W...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Still trying to figure out how this got made with everything else that's going on. But it did, so here you go.<br><br>For those of you with good memories, you might recognize the chorus line as my Week 52 Assignment from SSG Year 6. The song has even earlier beginnings, though. It start with whatever week I assigned "write in a different tuning." This is in DADGAD, which I've used in numerous arrangements but never on an original. Week 52 saw me pick up the idea and chorus and this week Vic's prodding has gotten it to the stage where it could be recorded and presented for critique. <br><br>You can find it at the usual place: <a href="http://www.soundclick.com/davidhodge">http://www.soundclick.com/davidhodge</a><br><br><I>Train of Thought</I><br><br>I forgot my daughter's name today<br>But I know what day it is<br>And that's a start<br><br>It starts with the little things<br>It's always the little things<br>The "where's my keys my coat my ring"<br>The little things will tell you something's wrong<br>That this train of thought has gone<br><br>Have I gone away again<br>Have I been gone for long<br>Sometimes it takes everything I have<br>Just to stay here<br>Just to stay in the moment<br>Just to stay in my head<br>Until the voices come and say<br><br>It's time for me to go now<br>(don't be fooled by what you see)<br>It's time for me to go now<br>('cause you know this isn't me)<br><br>Please remember me as I used to be <br>Please remember me as I used to be<br>Please remember me as I used to be<br>Please remember me as I used to be<br>Please remember me as I used to be<br><br>Â©2009 D.Hodge<br><br>Peace]]></content:encoded>
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