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http://pt3.sbu.edu/VFTs/WashDC2/vietnam_memorial_wall.htm

interesting side note about the vietnam wall. i heard that a professor at an art college in washing d.c. gave the assignment to his students to design a memorial to commemorate the vietnam war. the prof sent off the students work to the committee that was deciding. the girl's submission that was choosen only got a "B" from the prof. i thought someone might enjoy this tidbit of informantion.

-CheapThrill]]> Sunday Songwriters Group CheapThrill https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69973 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69833 Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:40:06 +0000
first time I read this I couldn't really appreciate it the way I do now(maybe because of the teacher looking over my shoulder when I was supposed to do some research for history :wink: )

anyway now I do like this song a lot, very melancholy and sad one...some excellent lines in there for example: I think he never really,
came back from Viet Nam, Uncle Dean had a demon,
it lived inside his head,
called him Charlie, when he spoke of it at all, he's every bit as dead
as every person named on that black wall. just noticed that it's no use quoting the last two pieces, I could have said the whole 2nd chorus is terrific, really.

thanks for the link, I didn't know such a wall exists.

greets,
bluenightangel]]> Sunday Songwriters Group straycat. https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69833 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69721 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:57:18 +0000

Really poinant song. I like the the way use the character to show that there are many casualties to war that don't make it to the memorials. Most of who lived through that era can think of a few men who " never really, came back from Viet Nam''

I find that sometimes when I'm not really satisfied with my work that it helps to let it rest for awhile and look at it again with fresh eyes.

Don't give up on this one it really says alot.

Celt]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Celt https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69721 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69704 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:26:18 +0000 hmmm.... let me know how you see the story when you're wide awake.wide awake.....don't know that that is going to happen anytime soon. not really sure what that is. :lol: haven't been that way in a long, long time.
i still like this song the same way i did before. for the fact that you mention 'the wall' and you aren't talking about a dead person. you are describing a man with post tramatic war syndrom.
he'd play football with the boys,
helped the children mend their toysthough he came home from the jungle,
he's every bit as dead
as every person named on that black walli really like these sets of lines. you certainly shouldn't throw this song out. i can see that you might want to edit it a bit. it is a good one, a keeper.

i know that the author is always his own hardest critic but listen to us here and keep this one.

good work. maybe not one of my favorites of yours but i still enjoyed reading it.

-CheapThrill]]> Sunday Songwriters Group CheapThrill https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69704 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69651 Fri, 17 Sep 2004 00:50:33 +0000
Good piece of writing - can't see what you're not happy with, there's a few word changes that'll come when you get it paired with a tune but certainly a keeper.

Good stuff and interesting take on the assignment.

Bob :)]]> Sunday Songwriters Group Bob https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69651 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69565 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:45:24 +0000 i like the fact that you are writting about a person the servived nam, and not someone that died, since you are writting about the wall. hmmm.... let me know how you see the story when you're wide awake.
i did find one little possible mistake. Uncle Dean has a demon
it hunts him every night,
sometimes he wakes up screamin' is the word 'hunts' correct here or did you mean to use the word 'haunts'? nope. I meant 'hunts'. I know I used 'haunted' in the first verse, but in the choruses I wanted 'hunts'. As in -- always looking over your shoulder, always watching your back, always sleeping with one eye open, always... etc

This song was mostly a struggle. It's still not quite where I want it to be. The language is sloppy in places, as you pointed out. But I did get something done for the exercise, which is about the best I could hope for this week. I might keep on this one, though. If I ever get it down the way it is in my mind, it'll be good.

-- Scratch 8)]]> Sunday Songwriters Group scratchmonkey https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69565 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69564 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:05:30 +0000
great job as always. maybe it is just because i am about to pass out right now but i can't seem to get any kind of tune going for this. with most people's work i can't but i almost always can with yours, until now. i will certainly reread it when i am more awake.

great story going on here. i like the fact that you are writting about a person the servived nam, and not someone that died, since you are writting about the wall.

i will comment again when i read this song contious. i did find one little possible mistake. Uncle Dean has a demon
it hunts him every night,
sometimes he wakes up screamin' is the word 'hunts' correct here or did you mean to use the word 'haunts'?

nice song and will comment more later. just wanted to get my two cents in real quick. :D

-CheapThrill]]> Sunday Songwriters Group CheapThrill https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-69564 https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-3822 Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:04:26 +0000 the wall.


My mother's brother, uncle Dean
was the gentlest man I'd ever seen
had a peace sign on the pocket of his jeans.
he'd play football with the boys,
helped the children mend their toys,
but he couldn't mend his haunted, broken dreams.


One day in Sixty-three
a letter came for Uncle Dean
said the Army needs your service for a while,
we knew there was a war,
but we didn't know what for,
Mama cried when Uncle Dean told her good-bye.


Uncle Dean has a demon
it hunts him every night,
sometimes he wakes up screamin'
sometimes he's ghostly white,
He isn't always sleeping
when the demon comes to call,
and we'll never see his name upon the wall.

Uncle Dean did what he thought was right,
he never really liked to fight,
but he answered the call the best he could.
when he got home, he'd never go,
back to our secret fishing hole,
if we had to take the shortcut through the woods.

Some years later Uncle Dean
took his life by his own hand
never said too much about the things he saw.
I think he never really,
came back from Viet Nam,
and we'll never read his name upon that wall..


Uncle Dean had a demon,
it lived inside his head,
called him Charlie, when he spoke of it at all,
though he came home from the jungle,
he's every bit as dead
as every person named on that black wall.

-- Scratch 8)]]> Sunday Songwriters Group scratchmonkey https://guitarnoise.forum/sunday-songwriters-group/ssg2-week-45-never-made-the-wall/#post-3822